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Hi, I'm new here and hoping for some advise/insight on puppies with heart murmurs? I've had a lab in the past and she was a fantastic dog and sadly missed.

I changed my work pattern 6months go and we decided it was the right time to look for a pup. We found a breeder in October and the pups were born at the end of that month. The pup is due to come to us at the end of the week but the breeder has contacted me to say our girl (Coco) was found to have a Soft heart murmur by the vet this morning. The vet said it shouldn't be a problem and this usually sorts itself out by 6months. Has anyone else experienced this? Will it affect us getting insurance?

We so want this wee girl she is adorable.
 

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Heart murmurs do occur in pups occasionally, and often clear up fine. They can reoccur under high stress conditions, (A friend's dog's murmur came back after the dog was involved in an accident, but again cleared up after a couple of days.)

As to insurance, I could not say because I never insure my dogs for vet fees, but knowing how insurance companies try to wriggle out of everything I cannot imagine that it will NOT affect it.

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As a breeder, I would ask you to stand back and think ' hang on, I KNOW this girl is adoreable... and so therefore yes its natural to want her...'

But this is part of the problem of breeders allowing people to 'pick their puppies' before the 8 week mark when they get vet checked or picked up. It means a problem with one, means someone is devestated as the puppy is already 'allocated' to someone in particular. :-( :-(

It SHOULD be the breeders responsibility to keep this puppy, see how things progress, and then, brilliant! *IF* it passes (and sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't, but I've known it rarely end happily if the puppy has been sold... only if the breeder kept it themselves....future heartbreak or vets bills tends to wreak even the most happy breeder/owner relationship, literally, in days!....) THEN rehome the puppy at 6/9/12 months of age.... not yours.

You want to be going into this KNOWING what you are getting. Yes its a puppy, but, and sadly this is the result in many cases... the puppy is dead by a year old. Thats harsh i know but its true. Soft murmours can increase, and thats a vague name for it anyway, you really probably won't know the full extent and seriousness until the puppy sees a cardiac specialist.

It could be nothing. It could be something absolutely heartbreaking. But either way don't buy an imperfect puppy at THIS stage. If you had got it home, not gone to the vet for a month or something, THEN gone, and THEN found this out... fine. But don't walk into it with your eyes open... I would, over the last twenty something years give you on one hand how many times this ends up happily, even if the puppy has a fairly normal life, its always luring in the back of your mind.

Depends how tough you are. Yes its a dog, but if it was a car and there was something wrong with it that came to light BEFORE you even bought it which could render it a write off in 6 months you would of course walk away. But I KNOW this is different because its a living thing.... but, sadly,... you know what... REALLY its not :-(

OR maybe a middle ground would be the ask the breeder to pay to have her seen by a cardiac specialist and get a second informed opinion. If THEY see it as something incrediably minor, fine. But rreally.... you shoould be buying a healthy puppy, and any problems are the breeders problems until they are no longer a problem... and then its down to the breeder to rehome the dog .... really.
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My Callum had a heart murmur (he was a Cavalier and a rescue dog in the sense that the breeder asked me to care for him as he wouldn't live past 18 months).
Every time the vet listened to his heart, throughout his life, the vet said he'd never heard such a 'slushy' heart. Callum lived to a sprightly 15.

My son had a heart murmur when he was born, he grew out of it.

That's all I know from experience. Best to ask the vet.
 

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Heart murmurs are simply abnormal heart sounds caused by turbulent blood flow, and treatment depends upon the underlying cause of the heart murmur or the turbulent blood flow.
 
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