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Hello all! I am new to this forum so please bear with me if this has already been covered, I've had a quick look but can't find the answer i'm looking for :)

Our black lap pup, Graham is due his 2nd vaccination next Tuesday after which we were advised to wait another week to be able to take him out.

However in the same sentence, we were told to socialise him as much as possible. I'm just wondering what other people did for this?

We've carried him about, through the busy town, visited relatives, friends with children, grandparents etc. I took him to meet my mothers 2 dogs as I know they've been vaccinated and had all their boosters and he really enjoyed their company. Just trying to think of a few more things to do with him, feeling a little guilty confining him to our garden when he seems like such a sociable fella :(
 

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It's a balancing act and everyone will have different thresholds.

The time will soon pass, but I would keep him off grass and very dog (fox) busy areas until your vet is sure he's safe. But I would do socialising trips at least twice a day as time is short.

I can't let Twiglet have her paws down where other dogs have been until she's 17 weeks! So pity me ;) She's a Guide Dog pup and they have lost a few to Parvo, so they are ultra cautious, they have three vaccinations - the last at 16 weeks. But I am lucky, I can take her in shops, cafes, garden centres, anywhere I go, so it's a different story.

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It's a balancing act and everyone will have different thresholds.

The time will soon pass, but I would keep him off grass and very dog (fox) busy areas until your vet is sure he's safe. But I would do socialising trips at least twice a day as time is short.

I can't let Twiglet have her paws down where other dogs have been until she's 17 weeks! So pity me ;) She's a Guide Dog pup and they have lost a few to Parvo, so they are ultra cautious, they have three vaccinations - the last at 16 weeks. But I am lucky, I can take her in shops, cafes, garden centres, anywhere I go, so it's a different story.

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We are being very cautious, as with just over a week left there's no point risking it. God forbid he picked up something we'd feel terrible! Probably a little too safe taking puppy pads out if he ever needs a wee when we're socialising! Get a few funny looks..;)

Twiglet is a cracking name by the way, 17 weeks! My goodness that is a long time to wait. How do you go about training her guide dog duties if she is not allowed out? :eek:
 

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Do you have to have an injection for Parvo? We weren't offered one, is there even one? :)

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Do you have to have an injection for Parvo? We weren't offered one, is there even one? :)

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Parvo is included in our 3 injections! Think this is the case with most so I'd assume that's why they didn't offer a specific one for it :) may be worth just checking!

He had one at 8 weeks, booked in to have 2nd on Tuesday, can go out a week after that and then a week later has the 3rd.

The only separate one that we were offered is kennel cough but choosing to do that with the 3rd one in a couple of weeks time :)
 

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There is a lot of debate over the kennel cough vaccine as it is a nasal application which dogs really don't like. There is also some question over its effectiveness as it only covers limited strains of KC. A lot of kennels won't accept dogs unless they are vaccinated and vets like to push it but KC isn't particularly dangerous for a healthy dog, it is only like us having a bad cold.

More socialisation opportunities are train and bus stations, going for a ride on the bus/train. Pet shops and camping shops usually allow dogs in so you could also visit those.
 

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Twiglet is a cracking name by the way, 17 weeks! My goodness that is a long time to wait. How do you go about training her guide dog duties if she is not allowed out? :eek:
She's a Text Santa pup - which means her name was chosen by the audience of an ITV telethon (!) I wonder if they will get them together for a photoshoot? :)

We train her and walk her in many places like shops, garden centres, shopping centres, cafes restaurants - anywhere other dogs are not allowed. She meets other dogs at Guide Dog puppy classes, her first one was at 8 weeks old. Full on traffic duties start at 17 weeks, but I already spend a lot of time sitting at bus stops and train platforms with her on my knee watching. My biceps are getting strong ;)
 

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There is a lot of debate over the kennel cough vaccine as it is a nasal application which dogs really don't like. There is also some question over its effectiveness as it only covers limited strains of KC. A lot of kennels won't accept dogs unless they are vaccinated and vets like to push it but KC isn't particularly dangerous for a healthy dog, it is only like us having a bad cold.

More socialisation opportunities are train and bus stations, going for a ride on the bus/train. Pet shops and camping shops usually allow dogs in so you could also visit those.
Oh really? Was not aware that it was a nasal application, does not sound nice for them I must admit. I've had dogs in the past but always had injections for KC, that must have changed! Although probably was about 10 years ago, ha!
To be honest we are going away in Sept and Graham is staying at a relatives, do you think it is wise to postpone it if I ever need to do it? Vets came across as though it is absolutely necessary, even if they are not staying in Kennels anytime soon.

Never thought about trains/buses really as I never go on them myself! Pet shops are a good one though, I do need to build up my muscles though as I struggle holding him! Will need to pick a day where i'll have some assisted manpower :)
 

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She's a Text Santa pup - which means her name was chosen by the audience of an ITV telethon (!) I wonder if they will get them together for a photoshoot? :)

We train her and walk her in many places like shops, garden centres, shopping centres, cafes restaurants - anywhere other dogs are not allowed. She meets other dogs at Guide Dog puppy classes, her first one was at 8 weeks old. Full on traffic duties start at 17 weeks, but I already spend a lot of time sitting at bus stops and train platforms with her on my knee watching. My biceps are getting strong ;)
Well that's just adorable, love the thought of that.
I suppose you do have the advantage of being able to take her into most places than others! My OH stupidly thought he could get away with taking Graham into Tesco, then wondered why he got kicked out :rolleyes:
I'd love to sit with him places like that, however he is very impatient and would not sit on my knee for more than 5 mins without attacking my face/hair/arms/any body part he can possible get his mouth into!
 

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It's a balancing act and everyone will have different thresholds.

The time will soon pass, but I would keep him off grass and very dog (fox) busy areas until your vet is sure he's safe. But I would do socialising trips at least twice a day as time is short.

I can't let Twiglet have her paws down where other dogs have been until she's 17 weeks! So pity me ;) She's a Guide Dog pup and they have lost a few to Parvo, so they are ultra cautious, they have three vaccinations - the last at 16 weeks. But I am lucky, I can take her in shops, cafes, garden centres, anywhere I go, so it's a different story.

:)
Yes, I do agree with you! That's why each puppy is UNIQUE :p
 

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There is a lot of debate over the kennel cough vaccine as it is a nasal application which dogs really don't like. There is also some question over its effectiveness as it only covers limited strains of KC. A lot of kennels won't accept dogs unless they are vaccinated and vets like to push it but KC isn't particularly dangerous for a healthy dog, it is only like us having a bad cold.

More socialisation opportunities are train and bus stations, going for a ride on the bus/train. Pet shops and camping shops usually allow dogs in so you could also visit those.
Very true! We recently had our entire pack down with Kennel Cough - all were vaccinated for it! - after bringing home a new Puppy who had been vaccinated by her Breeder the day she came home - 4 days after she arrived, the first adult was coughing all night and to the Vet in the morning; three days later, the second came down with it despite isolating them all from each other; within another two days, two more had it. Lots of money on antibiotics to treat the pack for a disease they had all been vaccinated against. Florida Law requires that puppies have it at 8 weeks before they leave the Breeder, so it's an issue that needs to be addressed!
 

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The trouble with Kennel Cough is that it is a coverall name for a couple of different conditions, but worst still, like flu, there are many different strains of these conditions. Generally speaking vets, or rather the vaccine companies, decide which strain is the one likely to affect dogs in a particular country in any year, and prepare their vaccines accordingly. But one problem these days is the ease of transporting dogs around the world. In the UK for example, you only need to see where dogs attending Crufts dog show come from to appreciate that there are representatives from the four corners of the world, and each of those overseas dogs "Could" be bringing in a different strain! The situation in reality is impossible to manage!

But although a distressing condition, KC is rarely a problem to any other than the very young or very old. It's very much the canine equivalent of the common cold. A cough, a saw throat, then in a dog with a halfway efficient immune system it's gone.

Live vaccines are probably the most efficient, but can also give the most problems if a dog's immune system is at all compromised. Killed vaccines are less problematic, but also less effective. So everything is a compromise. Personally I done use the KC vaccine, but that's a personal thing and it's up to the individual to read up on the subject and form their own decisions.

John :)
 
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