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Following on from a FB post I have a question.
I keep hearing people say that the stud dog will let you know if your bitch is ready (in the absence of premate). No-one seems to focus as much on whether the bitch will let you know.
What confuses me is that often dogs will be interested in Lola a full week at least before her season even starts let alone her being ready to mate.
My ONE experience indicated that a stud dog will 'have a go' whether she was ready or not but she wasn't entertaining the idea (at least not happily).

However once she was ready she clearly indicated she was ready. Now I know this is not always the case, the stud dog owner told me he had one bitch who was absolutely ready according to premate (and also by the resulting litter) who seemed completely not ready, screamed and howled all the way through to the point where he became quite concerned but the owner said this was 'normal' for her, this was her 3rd successful mating and she had behaved the same at the others.

So is the stud dog a realiable indicator? Is the bitch usually reliable? I know there will be exceptions both ways but I just mean as a general rule of thumb.
 

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No. :) Not to any great degree.....

Nor are dogs out and about.... and I'll tell you why ;-)

Stud dogs... exactly as you describe, they are dogs with a job and they know it. The majority of good stud dog owners have a set routine when a bitch comes for mating, be that putting other dogs in certain places so they cann't interfere, be that putting a certain rug down, be that using a trigger word such as 'wow! You gotta lady coming!!'... whatever... and possibly a combination of those.

Therefore... INITALLY when the dog is released in with the bitch he will believe he is going to mate her, if he has reasonable experience, and regardless of how she smells/reacts etc he will, for at least a few minutes, if worth his weight in gold, persist in trying to mount her and not really 'read her'.... (although stud dogs DO vary, there ARE some what we call 'gentlemen' out there who sniff and THINK before throwing themselves at the bitch, but they are few and far between IF they have had a good few girls ...)

THEN what tends to happen, is YOU start to see what the bitch is actually thinking... 'lets do it!/i'm not sure about this!/Bugger off or i'll rip your throat out buster!!' ........ and in YOU seeing the dog will start to respond to that.... If she is snarling and lunging at him he will, if he has half a brain cell, start to THINK rather than just DO and start to back off a little... then its up to the stud dog handler to decide where you go from there... persisting, calling it off, giving her an internal, giving them more space, less space, holding her etc etc...'

HOWEVER that all said, IF a bitch is nowhere near ovulation only a serious idiot of a stud dog will completely ignore that for the entire duration of being wit the bitch and WILL after a few aborted attempts, start to back off and show less interest..... or you see a change in a playful socialised stud dog that starts to read a LOT more like 'lets play, rather than lets do it!!'

Dogs out and about will just respond to a bitches blood loss and hormonal smell. Their response will ive no indication whatsoever whether the bitch is ready for mating or not.

SO.... in short, the bitch is the signaler.... really. She CAN easily be ready but still kick and scream about being mated. Its pretty common. Which is why premate tests are so useful for checking if she is telling the truth or just being a wimp or stroppy cow ;-) The stud dog will think she is ready when she is put infront of him and act accordingly. If you picture that quite a lot of 'ready girls' won't stand without, lets say, assistance from the humans, for mating... so therefore boys worth their weight in the kennel HAVE to be able to keep coming forward and getting on a bitch with people around her, or who is not making terribly welcoming noises from the front end ;-) ;-) Therefore, they do have to read the situation but ignore it sometimes... because sadly dog sex rarely is hearts and flowers start to finish ;-)

Those who say 'my stud dog tells me if she is ready' are numerous. And some may, after the inital flurry... but many are 'programmed' to just keep on pushing and pushing the point with her, and so its always the bitch, humans and science (premate) that REALLY tell you full story. :)

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