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Hi! I'm here looking for advice about my poor black lab.

She will be 11 this October, and has led a healthy life so far, lots of exercise, she's an excellent weight, hardly any health scares.

She's been a bit wobbly on her hind legs for about two months- we just put it down to a bit of arthritis and old age.
Then today, she's been lying on the ground, unable to properly move her hind quarters, whimpering.
We took her to the vet at 9 am and she had anti inflamatories, then she perked up for a while.
Then this evening she was worse than ever, basically unable to move, dragging her hind legs behind her, like a seal.

We called the vet out at 11pm, he gave her some pain killers, but we're taking her for an x-ray in the morning.

I'm afraid of what he will say. I've read a bit about hip displacia- from what I have learnt, hip operations and replacements can be done, if that's what's wrong. But, is surgery a good idea in a dog of 11 years??
She seems bright in herself, I don't want to put her down. But neither should she be dragging herself about. I just don't know what to do.

Do you think surgery in old dogs is OK??
 

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Poor Megan! I think you need to ahve a chat to your vet tomorrow after he has examined her and formed an opinon.....

Hoping that the news you get tomorrow is better than you are fearing!



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Really sorry to hear about Megan. Its very hard to say without knowing the proper diagnosis from your vet. I think you really need to wait for the results of the x-rays and then go from there and if it is hip related, probably the advice of a specialist. Operations/hip replacements can be done but obviously its intrusive and they require a long recovery time, it all really depends on the severity of the problem.

I've not experienced hip problems but my Em had very bad elbow displaysia diagnosed at 11 years old and she went on to have major surgery. It was alot to put her through and a long recovery but it was worth it as she went on to live to 14 years old with no more pain from her elbow.
 

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Wait and see what your vet says.

From personal experience (my boys had his done) i wouldn't put an 11 year old dog through hip replacement op . There are some wonderful supplements etc out there to help .

Let us know how you get on :wink:
 

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What a wonderful supportive forum :)
Thank you so much for your replies.
This morning we found her crying on the floor. The painkiller the vet gave her had worn off, and she was in a lot of pain- she never usually cries, but every breath was a whimper. Having said that, she still wagged her tail to see us, and ate treats with her anti inflamatories in them. There's no keeping some labs down!
We took her straight to the vet, and left her there. At some point today they're going to give her a neurological exam, and some x-rays under anaesthetic
The vet thought it could be back related.
Was so hard to leave her there.
My mum holds the purse strings, so she'll be the one deciding how far to take treatment, if they can offer her any.
I'll let you know how she is when they ring later:-(
 

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How awful for you and her :(
Do hope it's something simple .............they are a worry aren't they ........if only they could talk
She's in the best place :wink:
 
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I'm so sorry to hear your lovely girl is having such trouble.

My own darling Lurcher was nearly 14 when much the same thing happened to her. It was such a shock really as although she had been a bit wobbly and stiff for a couple of years, in every other way she was healthy. Tara hated going to the vets, so leaving her there for tests at her age wasn't an option I even thought about and I wasn't going to keep her dosed up on Morphine, so let the old girl go with all the dignity she deserved.

It is utterly heartbreaking but I would rather them go a day too soon than a day too late. They give us so much while they are with us, so the last kindness we can do for them, is not to let them suffer.

I do hope there is something they can do for your old girl but knowing several dogs whose Back Ends have Gone, I would prepare yourself to do the Right Thing if necessary.

And I'm sorry, I know that is probably the last thing you want to hear but sometimes honesty is best.

((((HUGS))))
 

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How sad but I can tell how loved she is.

My dog has had both his hips replaced but at a much younger age. I don't think they would do that to an 11 year old.
As Marie said, there are some very good supplements and the vet will advise you what is best

Everything crossed for you xx
 

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I'm so sorry to hear this...my old black lab has had hip displacia for the last 8 yrs and has been on tablets for her arthritis for the last few years. The long and short of this is that my Jade has never displayed the sort of symptoms yet that your girl is. I really hope it is something that can be treated with tablets long term...but if it was my girl I'm afraid I'm with Jules and I would let her go rather than put her through major surgery at her age :( Sorry as I know how hard it is....we thought we had lost her when she fell last month :cry:

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I am sorry to hear this news.

I think you must now wait and see what the vet says when the tests are done...and then make an informed decision...

I hope the news is better than expected....

Thinking of you


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I've got to say this, If you have had no problems at all up to 11 years old, and has now collapsed so suddenly and so severely, I’d doubt hip dysplasia. Could be muscular?? I’d say your vet has already ruled out Vestibular syndrome, (although this tends to be sudden and immediate, so it does not sound like that.) But there are other things.

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Hi all. The vet rang. It's not her hips. Either she's slipped a disc, or she has an infected disc. If it's a slipped disc, there's nothing they can do for her at that age :-( If it's an infection, then six weeks of 'cage bedrest' should give her a 50/50 chance. They won't know whether it's an infection or not until they cultivate her urine sample, and get the results next week, so she's on caged bedrest and general antibiotics until then. We take her home from the vet's tomorrow.

I know she was in a great deal of pain this morning, and we can't have her going through any more of that. Six weeks in a cage sounds pretty miserable to me, especially if she's in pain. I just hope they have strong pain relievers they can give us for her.

At the moment, I'm trying to feel positive there's hope for her. She may still recover. But my mum is terribly upset and can't bear the thought of such a dear friend in a cage and in pain.

If it is an infection- what would you guys do? Would you take the 50% chance with the cage rest?
 

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I'm relieved to hear its not her hips...however it doesnt sound as if the news is all good :( I know that Jade was in a lot of pain when she fell and when we took her to the vets I thought that would be it :( However the vet gave us some super strong pain killers that she could take at the same time as the tramadol she takes already...this really worked for her :) I think I would try the bed rest and see how she takes it...if she's still all waggy tailed then I would leave her and see how all pans out.

Good Luck

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Did the vet give you the ratio of it possibly being an infection? I mean is it more likely to be an infection than a slipped disc, or less? I know you said if it was an infection then she has a 50/50 chance but the way I would look at it, is if it was less than a 50% chance of it being an infection then that would reduce her chances of recovery much more.

I have a wonky spine and because of this my discs can bulge which is incredibly painful and stressful. So I personally wouldn't want my old dog going through anything like that unless I knew there was a large chance of her fully recovering swiftly.

It is difficult for us to judge though, as only you know your dog. My old Lurcher had to have an emergency spay at 10 and then went on to do a lot of damage to her carpus joint which needed 2 more ops in that same year. I know a lot of people would have called it a day then but she was in the rudest of health in every other way and she wanted to carry on. It was a completely different kettle of fish when her back end collapsed. She was in so much pain, the only thing they could do was give her morphine which knocked her out and when that wore off she was in agony again. By the next morning she gave me the "Look"....and I knew she had had enough and wanted to go < huge lump in my throat even now :cry: > .

You have to do what you think she would want at this stage. You have to look at her quality of life and her potential to have a good quality of life again soon.

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Oh my goodeness. I was just reading through this thread, then saw you post at the end :cry: So very very sorry to hear what happened to poor Megan. Bless her little heart :( :(
 

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So sorry about Megan. It's such a very tough decision to make.

Run free Megan

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Oh Hun, I don't doubt that was the hardest thing you have ever done but remember you did it out of love for her. She is at peace and painfree now and you need time to get over the shock and hurt. (((HUGS)))

Thinking of you.

Run free Megan, forever young once more XXXX
 
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