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Hi all,im thinking of getting a muzzle for my 2 yr old chocolate lab,as he is very wary of men and reacts by lunging at them when we walk.He is not by any means a viscous dog,he is just scared,and so reacts like this.Fred is very obedient,has good recall,and he is a true friend and family dog BUT,i feel that one day he will make contact.Our trainer thinks he is very protective of me,as in class he has lunged at him on more than one occasion,when he has been a little to close ,and in our space.So any suggestions about which type of muzzle to use would be very gratefull.I walk Fred in a halti at the mo to have more control.Ireally don't wont to muzzle him if im honest,they look horrible and people will think hes dangerous,hes not just scared. Thanks.
 

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Describe the lunging...?

I would describe my 2 as lungers but they lunge or launch to say hello to people. Those they particularly adore get the strongest of lunges, leaps, kisses and jumps!! They are Over-Friendly and don't need muzzling. Your lunging sounds very different as you are considering a muzzle which is why I as you to describe it...

Is he snapping at men when he lunges? growling? barking?

Have you done any work to socialise and train him that men are not something to be concerned about? I would be gaining the help of men (I'd expect your trainer to help with this issue if he has seen it first-hand) to 'make friends' with him through controlled situations so that he recognises them as positive beings with lots of time and patience.

If I had any thoughts that my dogs were likely to injure or bite a person I would muzzle them in public places for my own peace of mind. If my dog ended up PTS because I thought a muzzle looked horrid on them I'd never forgive myself, I'd feel I had failed them by not putting their needs (a muzzle) ahead of my own prejudices. A muzzle is a necessity for some dogs and their owners just like a collar and lead IMO.
 

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As you already use a halti have a look at the trixie loop muzzle. I use the XL on my girl bella as she can be unpredictable with other dogs. I can still treat her, she can drink, pant and eat unmentionable stuff on walks, but fitted correctly she can't open her mouth enough to bite and she can't get it off.
 

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What does your trainer suggest you can do about the lunging?

I use a baskerville (plastic basket) muzzle on Paddy when we walk in places where he might suddenly come upon a strange dog. They let him pant and drink and he can't get it off.
 

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What a lot of old Tosh from your trainer!! Sorry, over protective malarky, I would switch trainers.

Seriously, yes a muzzle will make you feel a little more confident when out and about, but what you really need to address is the route cause of his fear.

Fear issues can be addressed with the right methods and a good behaviourist, I speak from experience here, I had a girl who was extremely fear reactive, and it took a while but we got her to the point where she wasn't scared of people anymore using positive association.
 
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I agree with, Nat. I've had one who would lunge and bark fiercely, or off lead would run up to strangers and bark her "Mean it" bark, however it was because she was nervous of them and she wanted them to "Go AWAY!!!!". She was trying her hardest to protect HERSELF, not me (I've had a dog who would protect me and my children so the difference was very obvious to me).

It sounds like you need a trainer who can devise a plan with you to build your dog's confidence up around strangers.

It took me a couple of years to get my girl Mojo to the point where I didn't have to recall her every time I saw a potentially "Dodgy" looking person coming my way, but I did it off my own back, so no doubt made a few mistakes along the way. Undoubtedly the best things I did was to throw her in the deep end and join an Agility Display Team. This meant I was pushing the dog well out of her comfort zone every weekend, by taking her to different shows, with different people, different noises, different smells, etc, etc. People would wander past our tents wanting to say hello to the dogs and eventually Mojo would be offering herself to go meet and greet. I knew we'd cracked it when she offered to put her paws up on a young child in a wheel chair's lap to be fussed; previously Mojo had been terrified of children and wheelchairs. Ok she never turned into the bravest dog in the world, but she did become trustworthy and I didn't have to have one eye on her at all times after that. 8)
 
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