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Bumping again as this is about the most asked question at the minute ;-)
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Thank you for your original post and it was really useful for me to re-read with Flynn arriving tomorrow!

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Yes thank you Di, Its a scary time with a new puppy and this helps guide a more common sense approach as the puppies miss out so much in those few weeks if not.
 

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Had Milo at the vets today for his first injections and have a nice leaflet from them and he is not allowed out until 2 weeks after his second injections.

Further down the leaflet it gives you advice on Socialisation and tells you to give your puppy as many experiences as possible before 14 weeks, Meet over 100 people if possible, Get used to noises like cars and suchlike and play with vaccinated dogs.
Mixed messages as the vet said to keep him just on the garden at home...Anyone want to come to a house party then ? About one hundred guests with dogs should do it :)
 

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I took my girl out today for her first time out of the garden. She was perfect!! I carried her for most of the way around our town. Had dozens of people petting her and tell me how gorgeous she is. I met an old friend with a Scottie dog, asked if their boosters were upto date - told yes, so put her down on the floor to say hello. The got close, but no touching, growling or barking - she really wasn't interested in him. The walked her back up the pavement to my house (about 200 yards.)

Our situation is a little different - she had her first vaccination at 8 weeks old - went to vets as advised after 11 weeks, unfortunately she had an upset stomach and was told we couldn't give her 2nd vaccination and we would have to come back the following week (Wednesday just passed) after she was given the 2nd vaccination we were told we had left it too long a gap between vaccinations and she will need done again in 2 weeks time!! But that's what we were advised/told by the vet.
 

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Hi all, this is just my second post on here.

We have an 8wk old chocolate - named Buddy.
He just had his first jab this morning.
I like the ideas in this thread, however, my wife's friend had a 9wk old golden cross die a week ago from Parvovirus.

This makes us VEEERY nervous of having Buddy out on the street.

So, the question is should we give it a few days before popping him out -
I might carry him round to the Primary school to pick up my daughter one afternoon this later this week (thursday)...what do you think?
 

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Get him out with you, carry him if you have to, lots of car rides, high streets, out at other people's houses with their dogs, socialise socialise socialise is my advice.

Parvo is nasty, but the chances are that the puppy may have picked it up prior to arriving at his new owners, Parvo is still rare, it is scary but we can't wrap them in cotton wall.

Take precautions but make sure he is out with you as much as possible.
 

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Scott and Buddy, if the puppy was 9 weeks old, the puppy picked the Parvo up at the breeders..... it takes a day or two to develop and another day or two to notice the symptoms and them to progress to death... infact it would usually be 5 days or more between symptoms showing and death - so basically, sadly that pup came home with it, its VERY unusual to find this out and about these days. Incidences are extremely extremely low.

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I am so glad that I joined this forum. It is so refreshing to hear people having a common sense discussion about vaccination.

Theia had her first vaccination last Wednesday and we were subjected to the "Do not let your pup out in the garden until 2 weeks after her second vaccination (at 12 weeks)" chat from the vet.

I've attempted to have the post first vaccination walk chat with friends and have not been able to break through their fear complex. Having read this thread, I feel much better with my decision to take Theia out into the big wide world.

The benefits of having a socialised pup far out weigh the risk of her contracting one of the small number of diseases she is vaccinated against.
 

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Hi fascinating reading because it applies to us, sidney is 15 weeks old now and weve still got three weeks before he's allowed out! We have been carrying him down the road and the local school but as you can imagine at that age he is quite heavy!
He came from a farm so they never bothered having any of there dogs vaccinated at all thats why were so late with he's jabs.
Hopefully when he is eventually allowed out he will get confidence from daisy our other dog, just hope we haven't missed those important weeks of learning!!
 

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You're getting close.

He's had the jabs the other one is a booster. As long as it is not a salubrious area, get him on the ground and exploring.
 

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concerns

Hi sorry to be thick but what does that mean we live in a nice area but there is quite a few dogs, what should I look out for? Dog mess , other dogs im just frightened for sid but I do understand we are arming him by him not mixing too!
 

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I think Tim is saying it is ok for him to walk, you would be really unlucky for him to pick up anything that would put him at risk if you are reasonably careful where you go.

My thoughts on it is he would have been at a much greater risk of picking up infection on the farm with a concentrated amount of dogs than out and about with you.

Good luck with your little chap :D

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Hi all we are new to this forum and we have a lovely lab pup called Millie and yes she bites like a croc but hopefully this will pass. She is 8.5 weeks and has already had a first vaccine we have been very concerned about "parvo" however since reading your brill posts we have decided to allow her into our garden and she loved it the garden is secure and we are certain that we have no other dogs passing through however we are concerned about mice, rats, birds hedgehogs etc any advice would be very much appreciated BTW she is due her second vaccine on the 8th Feb thank you for you kindness and we look forward to hearing your thoughts soon. All the best Will & Catherine and little Milllie too
 

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Back in the days of my first dog there were no vaccinations, so I have grown up maybe a little less concerned than younger dog owners. Parvo is a relatively new disease, with the first outbreaks in the early 1970's. In fact a litter of GSD's bred by a member of my dog club were some of the very first to develop the disease, and were experimented on to try to find a vaccine! Much of the problem at the time was that as it had never been seen before dogs had no natural immunity to it. But in the 40 or so years since that time that situation has changed. It is still a killer disease, but not the 100% certain killer that it once was.

With my Chloe for example, she arrived home at just 8 weeks old and the very next day I carried her as far as the corner flower shop, because the young girl serving there had asked to see her. As far as I'm concerned a couple of days of so after the first jab I can take them out. Chloe had her first inoculation the following day and two days later spent a few minutes walking on the pavement outside the gate.

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Reading this very interesting post made me take the "risk" of bringing little Baymax (at 8 weeks) out for a stroll at the park where he met two adult female golden retrievers. Bidirectional love at first site. BTW Baymax behaved beautifully with his now huge retriever leash :)
Day after (yesterday) I brought Baymax for his first check with the vet, an experienced 62yr old guy and told him about our stroll but he was quite critical and suggested I don't do it anymore until 10 days after the second shot (so that would be the doggy having 3 months).
He said that some of this tough viral risks are quite common around here and he would advise against taking the risk.
I am disappointed since I loved the idea to start introducing him to the external world but will abide to his advice :(
PS Maybe there are climate/geographical difference in the prevalance of these pathologies to that something sensible in England is risky here in Italy?
 

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Vets will always err on the safe side. But then again, I dont know what the prevalence of canine disease is in Italy. Because it is mainland Europe there might be a risk of rabies, which we dont have in the UK. Then there is the question of percentage of vaccinated dogs. Is there much of a wild (unvaccinated) dog population. Warmer climates can increase the risks of certain things, Leishmaniasis is one which I know can be a problem in southern Spain. All of these things can increase the risk.
 

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Can confirm Leishmania is a problem here in central Italy approx from April to October.
Well I would have liked to introduce him to the wider world but the vet seems an expert sensible person so I'll follow his advice and wait for Feb 10 (he should receive 2nd dose on Feb 3).

For now it will be strolling in the house garden, leash training, romping through the grass and getting accustomed to the traffic noise (and others dogs/birds sounds) :)

Thank you.

PS Hope reposting under an old dormient but appropriate thread was a better choice than just opening a new but separate one.
 
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