Labradors Forums banner

1 - 13 of 13 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
4 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Hi, i have a 3 year old yellow female kc reg bitch who is due her season very soon i am considering her having a litter and i wondered about how do i go abot finding a stud dog, should i go for a kc reg male, where do i go to to find one IE do i advertise
ive had the tests done etc and am really just needing help on the stud side of things.

Many Thanx
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
8,702 Posts
Are you looking for a working lab stud dog or a show stud dog?

If you are looking for a working lab stud dog and you let me know a little about your bitches pedigree and whereabouts you are in the UK I can probably point you in the right direction. My email address is [email protected].
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14,890 Posts
TBH - I would recommend your first port of call being your girls breeder if she is approachable (Also check whether your girl has any breeding endorsements on her).

I notice you ask about KC registration? is your girl registered? if not, then I would give very careful consideration to breeding her.

Assuming she is, then YES, you should look only at KC registered studs (otherwise you won't be able to register the pups).

You don't need to advertise for a stud dog - you need to be clear about what you are looking for and why (i.e. to improve on your girl's weaknesses) and then start talking to stud dog owners.

In three matings, I must have spoken to nigh on 50+ stud dog owners before I made my final decisions.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,765 Posts
Some very good advice there - just to add that there are really many potential studs out there so it's just really a good idea to try and narrow it down by thinking seriously about what you will be looking for in a stud dog, then find out how far you're willing to travel for one. Then if you're looking for a stud with more or less all heath checks done, you'll find that the list of potential stud dogs may just get even shorter.

Choosing a stud dog is really very much about what 'things' you would like to try and 'improve' and what YOU like, really. As Sue says, try and ask your breeder if you can or simply post some more questions/info on here for more tips and ideas 8) 8)

Natasha
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4 Posts
Discussion Starter #5
sue51 said:
TBH - I would recommend your first port of call being your girls breeder if she is approachable (Also check whether your girl has any breeding endorsements on her).

I notice you ask about KC registration? is your girl registered? if not, then I would give very careful consideration to breeding her.

Assuming she is, then YES, you should look only at KC registered studs (otherwise you won't be able to register the pups).

You don't need to advertise for a stud dog - you need to be clear about what you are looking for and why (i.e. to improve on your girl's weaknesses) and then start talking to stud dog owners.

In three matings, I must have spoken to nigh on 50+ stud dog owners before I made my final decisions.
YES SHE IS KC REG (5,GEN) COMES FROM A VERY GOOD PARENTS WHO WERE HIP EYE TESTED ETC. SHES A GREAT FAMILY DOG AND I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR WORKING STUD.

THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ADVISE.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14,890 Posts
tancookie said:
sue51 said:
YES SHE IS KC REG (5,GEN) COMES FROM A VERY GOOD PARENTS WHO WERE HIP EYE TESTED ETC. SHES A GREAT FAMILY DOG AND I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR WORKING STUD.
8O was there any specific reason for 'shouting' your response? I merely responded on the basis that you asked about whether a stud should be KC registered - which leads to the natural assumption (in my eyes) whether the bitch is registered.

I hope you find what you are looking for.
 

·
Administrator
Joined
·
20,988 Posts
The parents are tested for hips and eyes, but dont forget, you are not breeding the parents, so far more important, is she tested?

Regards, John
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4 Posts
Discussion Starter #8
sue51 said:
tancookie said:
sue51 said:
YES SHE IS KC REG (5,GEN) COMES FROM A VERY GOOD PARENTS WHO WERE HIP EYE TESTED ETC. SHES A GREAT FAMILY DOG AND I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR WORKING STUD.
8O was there any specific reason for 'shouting' your response? I merely responded on the basis that you asked about whether a stud should be KC registered - which leads to the natural assumption (in my eyes) whether the bitch is registered.

I hope you find what you are looking for.
hi i am very sorry for shouting, i was miffed what you meant until i was told capitals is like shouting, i am new to this site and to computers.my bitch is kc registered but to be honest it doesnt matter if the male is kc, i would just like a natural, placid family i got 5 gen papers with my girl and all the ftc in her line her dad was a working dog and her mum was just a family pet. I was really only on here to ask if anyone really knew where i could find or go about finding a stud
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4 Posts
Discussion Starter #9
JohnW said:
The parents are tested for hips and eyes, but dont forget, you are not breeding the parents, so far more important, is she tested?

Regards, John
Hi yes she is hip and eyes.

hip 3/4

like to thank you all for your help and sorry for shouting.
 

·
Administrator
Joined
·
20,988 Posts
Without knowing a great deal more about your bitch no one could possibly help you. Breeding a good litter is rather more than just sticking a dog and bitch together and waiting 63 days. As to KC registered or not, sorry but without that little piece of paper there is no way of knowing id the dog is pure bred or not.

Sorry but I have to say this, either do the job properly or dont do it at all. As I said, sorry if that sounds hard but Labradors are beautiful dogs and I for one cannot support indiscriminate breeding.

Regards, John
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
14,890 Posts
i was miffed what you meant
You were miffed at what I meant - yet you would be prepared to put 2, 4, 6 etc other puppy owners in that very position by using a non KC registered stud :?

Whilst there are some health tested non KC registered studs, they are very few and far between - so that would be your first challenge - plus, your puppy buyers would never have that 5 generation pedigree (which is as close as you can get without DNA testing to proof of parentage) you so have quickly thrown back at me for daring to ask the question, because of course you wouldn't be able to register the pups nor would you know that the studs pedigree was in fact genuine if he isn't KC registered.

Breeding a family pet is fine providing it is done properly - but don't forget you are unlikely to have a single pup, but more likely 6 or 8 (or even as many as 12) that you have to find homes for - and that is easier if the pups are KC Registered and both parents fully health tested.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,765 Posts
Nothing wrong with breeding good puppies for active pet homes or like - only problem is that there are many, many nicely bred litters out there where people are struggling to sell the pups and that's not because there's anything really wrong with the pups but just that perhaps the parents haven't had many health checks done or perhaps potential puppy buyers haven't heard about the breeder so are slightly suspicious..

Many good breeders have got waiting lists for their puppies and at the moment, I've got people asking me about future litters from one of my stud dogs but these are all people that knows exactly what they're looking for in a dog and I find that they've done a lot of research about bloodlines, working/socialising/family abilities and health checks.

My normal advice to anyone would be to consider what you would do with any 'left over' puppies that doesn't sell - have a backup plan :wink:

Natasha
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,298 Posts
Hello, and welcome to the forum! You will get excellent advice and help on here from many experienced people. If you join the site you will also be able to send pm's, or private messages, to chat to members directly.

You have had some good advice given to you here, and also if you look at some of the posts under the breeding section, at the top, marked "sticky", there is lots of advice there too.

Finding a stud dog can be done in many ways. If you want a working dog, then try and go to watch some working tests, training sessions, or Field Trials which will all be run by gundog clubs in your area. You can then pick out the "stamp" of dog you like, and see how they are bred. Ask the owners of the dogs you like - they will be able to tell you where they bought their dog from. Where do you live? If you post an idea of your location on here, I am sure people will give you some pointers to clubs and working studs near you.

You can of course ask the breeder of your bitch, which is always a good start too. If you are inexperienced in breeding, the breeder of your bitch could be a godsend helping you through the whole process. Again, read the sticky posts I mention, as these cover things like this.

I tell my Vet when I hope to use my dogs at stud, and ask that if anyone asks him for a fully health checked stud dog whether he would put them in touch with me. He knows me, and my dogs, and knows they are all tested and well looked after. So ask your vet, and other vets in your area. Also ask in your feed store if they have regular customers who they know and trust and would recommend.

You will find many adverts on the internet, many of whom are good, trustworthy stud dog owners. You may wish to do full research on these internet, or indeed any, adverts, just to make sure that they are genuine people whith the good of the breed at heart, and not "get rich quick" merchants only interested in making a buck.

If I were in your shoes, I would try the word of mouth option first. Be prepared to answer lots of questions about why you want to breed, and don't be upset by this, it is because the people asking care about the breed and want to encourage responsible breeding practises.

The very best of luck, and if you want to talk "pet dogs" please pm me - I would be happy to chat to you.

Katy
 
1 - 13 of 13 Posts
Top