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Hi all, I’ve been a member & a lurker for over 10 years now when our choc boy Fergal arrived. He is a chunky boy on the the smaller side. He is a very trusting, people loving, submissive, soppy lap dog!

In July our black boy Rodney joined our family. He is very different in stature to Fergal, from working lines. At 7 months old he is already taller than Fergal & to us he seems very ‘leggy’ & skinny in comparison. He is my shadow & is always sat with me or on me. He is more dominant than Fergal & I haven’t seen him submit yet. He is very food driven & not so trusting of people not in our family bubble.

Just wanted to say hello as I’ve been very active lately reading lots of posts 😊

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Hello and welcome. There can be a big difference in personalities between working and show types, from what you describe he doesn't sound 'dominant' but sounds more reliant upon you, and obviously likes his food which he guards. The term dominance is used a lot and it stems from the pack theory, an old and outdated theory based on flawed science. The person that came up with the pack theory basically put together a bunch of wolves, not even of the same species, studied them, and made up the theory. However, dogs are very different in how they act in our homes, they have more fluid status, so whilst one may not tolerate strange dogs, they might let the others walk all over them for treats. And whilst some may just value food over anything else, others value closeness with us more, and so on. So when treats are around one might look more 'dominant' but when they are out and about, or without their owner, their status is changed if that makes sense? Anyway, welcome to the group, lovely dogs and lots of info on here xx
 

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Pair of crackers!!!

love the second photo; look a right cheeky double act
 

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Hello and welcome. There can be a big difference in personalities between working and show types, from what you describe he doesn't sound 'dominant' but sounds more reliant upon you, and obviously likes his food which he guards. The term dominance is used a lot and it stems from the pack theory, an old and outdated theory based on flawed science. The person that came up with the pack theory basically put together a bunch of wolves, not even of the same species, studied them, and made up the theory. However, dogs are very different in how they act in our homes, they have more fluid status, so whilst one may not tolerate strange dogs, they might let the others walk all over them for treats. And whilst some may just value food over anything else, others value closeness with us more, and so on. So when treats are around one might look more 'dominant' but when they are out and about, or without their owner, their status is changed if that makes sense? Anyway, welcome to the group, lovely dogs and lots of info on here xx
Thank you, I agree. Maybe dominant is the wrong word, he is just more dominant compared to Fergal, which doesn’t take much! I honestly don’t think I’ve met another dog that isn’t more dominant than my Fergal, he rolls on his back and submits to everything. I am yet to see Rodney submit to him or another dog.

Out & about Rodney will often shadow Fergal or I when he is unsure about something. Fergal is very confident as he thinks everyone loves him. So your summary is pretty much spot on.
 

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Pair of crackers!!!

love the second photo; look a right cheeky double act
Thank you, they certainly are a funny duo! Chalk & cheese but they love each other in their own way.
 

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Thank you, I agree. Maybe dominant is the wrong word, he is just more dominant compared to Fergal, which doesn’t take much! I honestly don’t think I’ve met another dog that isn’t more dominant than my Fergal, he rolls on his back and submits to everything. I am yet to see Rodney submit to him or another dog.

Out & about Rodney will often shadow Fergal or I when he is unsure about something. Fergal is very confident as he thinks everyone loves him. So your summary is pretty much spot on.
I have four at the minute, as well as a couple of other dogs, and out of the four of them the eldest is the one who is least foodie, but none of the others, bar her great granddaughter would dare to try and steal food from her. Obviously at 15 she's not strong enough to be in charge at all times, but she commands respect at some times. Her daughter is a big wuss, and her granddaughter is a soft lump as well, but the latter is very barky as she's been a covid pup, so not exposed to as much socialisation as I'd have liked but we'll hopefully be rectifying that. I love watching the relationships between my four Labradors and the other girls who are a rescue foxhound, and a flat coated retriever. The Labradors are four generations so from Great Grandma Tau down to her Great Granddaughter Weft, with her Grandma Zasa and Aunty Branta, and I see a lot of similarities in character.
 

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You have been around for quite some time Chocolate Orange, 2011! But welcome anyway. :)
 

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You have been around for quite some time Chocolate Orange, 2011! But welcome anyway. :)
Yes 😁 I read loads when Fergal came into our lives & signed up. I started up again about 14 months ago when we started looking into getting another puppy
 

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Hi and welcome back. Two gorgeous dogs you have there. :)
 

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Welcome.
 
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