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Hello ,
Myself and my husband have just adopted a beautiful Labrador who is approx 10 months old. He belonged to my bosses daughter and although not mistreated he got no love, affection or training !! He doesn't,t know how to walk on the lead and it took me nearly 20 minutes to get him into the house. Finn had never seen a television and it seems to fascinated him. We are not new to dogs we lost our beloved springer Toby last November at the age of 13 but this is the first dog we have had that has come from this kind of background. We are giving him time to settle, but he is very dirty and smelly, his former owner did tar spreading and he is covered in the stuff so any advice how to get that off would be great! We have a trainer coming to see us next week for some help and we are off to the vets Wednesday just for a check up.
I am hopefully he will be happy with us, he does deserves it and if any of you lovely people have any tips or advice (on any aspect) it would be much appreciated
Thanks in anticipation
Sara, Chris & of course Finn. Xx
 

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Welcome to the forum. Thank goodness the lovely Finn has found such a loving forever home. Looking at the way he is staring up at one of you in your photograph it won't be long before he can gain his confidence around the home. His eyes are gazing adoringly already, he is probably so grateful.

As for the tar my father in law had a dog that was covered in tar. I think he used vegatable fat and lemon juice to break it down then bathed the next day. It was a long time ago so there are probably better ways of doing it nowadays.

I look forward to hearing how your relationship grows with Finn.


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I've used baby oil in the past to remove splashes of tar. I massaged it into the fur, left it over night and then combed it out. It took ages.
Finn is a lucky lad finding a nice new home and caring owners. My daughters Mother in law rescued a springer spaniel in similar circumstances and he's turned into a wonderful dog who really enjoys life to the full.
 

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Welcome to the forums and thank you taking in a 'second hand' dog, he is beautiful and this is the beginning of a very long journey for you all.

One tip, if you have got pet insurance it wont cover you for 14 days, so leave the vets until the 15th day just in case :wink:

Time and patience and you can overcome anything, treats are good too
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Finn is about 8 months behind where he should be then by the sounds of it ---- shame on the previous "owners" BUT.....

A huge fair play to you.
Time, patience and effort will be do rewarding and he's a good looking lad to boot!

My advice would be to take all the advice far more experienced people will give you on here.
I would read The Dog Whisperer by Jan Fennell and Ceasar Milans puppy / dog conditioning books as well. Finn will test you I reckon but I also think you've saved him from dog hell so he'll be giving you a lot of love and affection

Good luck, welcome and let's hear regualr updates
 

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Thanks for the lovely welcome and all your kind replies. Finn has had a good day today, he slept through the night with not a sound, we have managed 2 walks, lead work leaves a lot to be desired bless him! We are making some progress with the tar, olive oil seems to really help oh and scissors !!! He loves a cuddle and is a starting to get a bit playful which is lovely to see. I,m looking forward to a long happy time with him and we are desperate to make sure we get it right because he does deserve that
Thanks again and lots of love to you and your doggies.
Sara & Finn xx
 

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Hello and welcome,

looks like Finn has landed on very lucky paws coming into your home, and life.

Look forward to reading your progress with this gorgeous boy.

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Well done on giving Finn a loving forever home, he's gorgeous! :love7:

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I would read The Dog Whisperer by Jan Fennell and Ceasar Milans puppy / dog conditioning books as well.
Please, please, please don't read or watch or copy anything from Cesar Millan. He's a curse to the dog world and I wish he could be banned from TV and ever going near a dog again.

Poor Finn has already been through enough and now that he's found a loving home, he deserves to be treated kindly, not subjected to the bullying methods used by Millan.

I'm not a huge fan of Fennell either, but if you are looking for a good book to read, I think Suzanne Clothier's Bones Would Rain from the Sky is a great one.
 

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-Angela- said:
Well done on giving Finn a loving forever home, he's gorgeous! :love7:

DJGoody said:
I would read The Dog Whisperer by Jan Fennell and Ceasar Milans puppy / dog conditioning books as well.
Please, please, please don't read or watch or copy anything from Cesar Millan. He's a curse to the dog world and I wish he could be banned from TV and ever going near a dog again.

Poor Finn has already been through enough and now that he's found a loving home, he deserves to be treated kindly, not subjected to the bullying methods used by Millan.

I'm not a huge fan of Fennell either, but if you are looking for a good book to read, I think Suzanne Clothier's Bones Would Rain from the Sky is a great one.
Angela I complete respect your views - all people have different approaches and its a case of what works for you but with the overarching principles of no cruelty or pain
I don't agree with Caesars approach on pin collars, lead jerks etc
I didn't agree with Jan when she left her dog when it wouldn't come back
But we took bits from each, added to our knowledge and what we picked up at puppy classes
Each to their own

One thing I'd definitely do is enrol in puppy/ dog training classes. We found this really helped socialise our dog.
 

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I appreciate Milan may not be to the tastes or needs of many, however, I believe some dogs &/or owners can still benefit from some of his techniques in certain circumstances.....I've never used spiked or electric collars. I can, understand some might try a low output electric collar if all other methods truly failed to correct critical & dangerous behaviour when only alternative is dog PTS or permanantly muzzled.
 

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I don't believe that Millan is able to wave a magic wand (or prong/shock collar) and help dogs that no-one else can help. I do believe that he has ruined the lives of many dogs sadly, though. Contrary to the message he and some fans like to send out. I do believe that there are very capable and well qualified (which Millan isn't) trainers and behaviourists out there who can help the dogs Millan claims to help, only without the bullying methods he employs.

I have seen various dogs, who were rehomed by rescue as steady, happy dogs, be returned as otherwise, due to being subjected to Millan's methods/theories. Sadly his methods and those used by others like him, who thankfully just aren't as 'famous', can make problems worse and result in an increase in dangerous behaviour and potentially PTS.

I appreciate that not everyone shares my views, but thankfully many do. I don't know of a single trainer or behaviourist that I respect who sticks up for him or agrees with his handling of dogs. Plenty disagree with him, including the APBC and others, who issued this statement:
http://www.dogwelfarecampaign.org/press-statement.php

and those who contribute to the Beyond Cesar Millan site:
http://beyondcesarmillan.weebly.com/

To the OP, sorry your post has gone off track when it was meant to be an intro to your lovely Finn. It worries me when people suggest Millan for ANY dog, never mind one who has already experienced trauma. Truly, it's the last thing they need :flower:
 

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Many comments linked condemn any use of fear/discomfort in dog handling/training.....Like I say - I have never used spiked or electric collars but raised voice & slip lead used for sure. I guess that makes me one of the bad ones in eyes of some :oops:

I accept that a very soft dog, (maybe one prior over dominated), may need gentle handling (initially & quite possibly forever).

Anyway............I agree we should get back on original topic ( no problem if anyone wants to start a new thread re old school training disciplines).

It's great to read this story of Finn being in a better & happier place. Hope you got all the tar off :)
 

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No apology needed.. Nothing wrong with a bit of healthy debate. I used a fantastic dog behaviourist with my springer when he had some problems so we have a one to one planned with her for later in the week, then we will go to her puppy class so poor Finn doesn't miss out

I,m afraid we still have tar but slowly I am clipping it out, he will just look a bit `bitty' for a while. But apart from that all is good, we have had 2 good nights, he has been left for a couple of hours In his crate and he is already sitting on command at the kerb. He has the makings of a top dog I think.
Sara x
 

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That sounds promising. Without wishing to appear patronising your approach to Finn seems pretty level headed & grounded. I would be doing same as you in so much as focusing on settling dog in new home, caring for physical welfare (sorting his coat etc), sorting early crate familiarisation & being left so he's not too clingy etc. The sit to kerb is good. Our boy prettty much auto-sits to kerbs and SIT is a pre-cursor to lots we do, whether waiting for food, door access etc etc.......a look, a cough a change of human posture often all that's needed when he doesn't do it voluntarily without prompting.

Be sure to subscribe here if you haven't already - it's a tenner a year but well worth it. The site is breed specific and nearly always folk engage in polite constructive dialogue.......even on occasions when there are healthy differences of opinion.
 

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finnsmum said:
No apology needed.. Nothing wrong with a bit of healthy debate. I used a fantastic dog behaviourist with my springer when he had some problems so we have a one to one planned with her for later in the week, then we will go to her puppy class so poor Finn doesn't miss out

I,m afraid we still have tar but slowly I am clipping it out, he will just look a bit `bitty' for a while. But apart from that all is good, we have had 2 good nights, he has been left for a couple of hours In his crate and he is already sitting on command at the kerb. He has the makings of a top dog I think.
Sara x

And we're back on track......

Excellent news Finn is doing well - that lovely little fella is the main thing
Seems he's struck lucky with you Sara and I wish you, Finn and your family all the very best. Does my heart proud theres people out there who will give dogs like Finny a second chance and a forever home

Be sure to keep us updated
 

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Hi and Welcome to LF :D

Well Done You for taking on Finn :D her proper doggy life has just begun.

I think of dogs as living beings on this earth, just like us humans. At 10 months old, Finn is (compared to a human) a young teenager!!. Imagine a young teenage human who had never been socialised with his peers
and "trained" or loved!!! OMG, they would need very careful handling!!!

Finn has found a loving home (her eyes say it in her photo) and TBH, part of the "bonding process" is grooming and "picking off bits of tar" :roll: :lol:

Try to find a training class (youth club :wink: ) for socialisation.

Chel and Dilys xxx

Edited to say soooo sorry to Finn :oops: I've been calling you a "her" :roll: - - - sorry Dude :wink:
 
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