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I know the sizes of Labs can vary enormously - but I wondered whether any of you have some thoughts or views on the following.

Bentley has always been crated - we've never had a problem from the get go because his Mum always took the pups in to a crate to feed them - so in a way, a crate has probably always been a comfort to him.

Next week, we are due to collect our 2nd puppy, Morgan, who is Bentley's Son. We are SO excited and hoping everything will go smoothly with them both being together - I know that Bentley will need some space now and then - and we have baby gates we can use should we need to.

My question is this :
We have kept Bentley's first crate - more than large enough for a puppy - but we got him a much bigger one - the size is roughly 4ftx3ft.
I wanted him to have plenty of head room and enough room to spread right out if he wanted. He has MORE than enough room in his crate - which ever way he chooses to lay down. Even my 13 year old son gets in there to lay down with him - and my Son is HUGE! lol (upwards AND sideways! lol)
When Morgan grows out of the puppy crate (and assuming they both get on like a house on fire) is that crate too small (humanely) to put them both in there? (say Morgan is the same size for example)

I know some of you may say 'wait and see how big Morgan gets' or 'they may not even get on' ..... but assuming they DID get on and say they both voluntarily put themselves in there together a few times, would it be ok to leave it at that set up? Would you allow it? Or would you prefer your Labs to have as much room as possible - EACH!

I would like to keep them together and right now the puppy crate will fit in just nicely next to Bentleys - but I wouldn't be able to keep them together in the future if you all recon that 'humanely' they should have one of the huge crates each.
 

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I think as you say, I would wait and see if they actually choose to use the same crate together, I`m not sure I`d leave them in it overnight though, Bentley won`t realise that Morgan is his son and therefore may not accept him with open paws :)

CJ has a 48" crate which sounds the same size as Bentleys and I know that he wouldn`t fit in it with another lab of his size or even smaller than him even though there`s a lot of extra space.
 

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I don't know. Sorry , not much help I know!

Mine do both voluntarily get in a crate or a bed together, but then most of the time they choose to go in their own beds and be separate.
Crating them together with a door closed would take that choice away, so I *think* I would say regardless of how they got on and chose to go in together I'd never shut them in.

Imagine if one got a funny tum and hate a crate explosion? Might be very distressing for the other dog too.
 

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Thanks Mary for your reply ..... and you're right, they may not even get on for a very long time. I do anticipate some trouble - so if we don't end getting any, that's a bonus! lol.

Bentley is crated over night and whenever we have to pop out ..... not only because he likes his crate - but also because I rent my house and can't be having him chewing doors, skirting boards, table legs etc (altho the furniture is mine - I still wouldn't be impressed! lol)

I'll do that - wait and see - particularly how big Morgan gets. I'm sure in the winter it would be nice to cuddle up - but in the summer I need them both to be comfortable - as well as just being able to stand up, stretch and turn around.

It's a pity I dont have room in my kitchen because my table is so big - otherwise, 2 of the massive ones wouldn't be a problem. Bentleys crate right now is under the stairs - and what with the slope under there, I can't fit another of the same size in.
It's a shame we can't just extend them really isn't it? (again, assuming all went well and they were happy to sleep together)
 

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you have a very valid point there Sarah - if one was unwell.

I hear what you're saying about choice - and having the freedom to choose themselves whether they go in together.

Like I say, it would be so much easier if I could fit the same in next to the current one - and maybe open the side door so they could be together as and when they want - and close it off to seperate them should illness or the grumps take a hold of one of them x
 

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Could you fit a 42" in beside Bently`s crate?, I would have got one that size for CJ had I thought at the time of buying.
 

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Mine frequently share sofa space and we don't really use crates here, other than the one my collie has but that's open 99.9% of the time, but I'd not lock two dogs into the same crate together unsupervised, however well they got on usually :)
 

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No Mary - at the very most, I can fit a 3ft next to it (can get the same height and depth in - but only 3ft accross the front) x
 

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-Angela- said:
I'd not lock two dogs into the same crate together unsupervised, however well they got on usually :)
I hear you Angela - thank you for your opinion x
 

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My two never choose to sleep together. Ever. They will get in the bed together if "forced" but only one of them is ever asleep!

They would never willingly go in a crate together. Its not that they don't like each other, they really are indifferent! There certainly is no ill feeling between them.
 

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Feebarn said:
My two never choose to sleep together. Ever. They will get in the bed together if "forced" but only one of them is ever asleep!

They would never willingly go in a crate together. Its not that they don't like each other, they really are indifferent! There certainly is no ill feeling between them.
Thank you for that - general census is that I should crate seperately - and that's what I shall do.

I was thinking - If I mucked out the spare room, I could have both crates up there together - my only worry is - we've never let Bentley upstairs (mainly because I have laminate downstairs - easier to clean - and carpet upstairs) and I worry that it will confuse him or cause me problems trying to get him up there at bed time.
 
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