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Hi all, we have a (nearly) 6 month old fox red boy, who is from a working line. For us he is a family pet and is well walked and socialised both with neighbours dogs and a local day care. On the whole he is a lovely dog who enjoys cuddles and is really affectionate" however, he has a few issues we can't seem to get on top of. He jumps up on people walking past our house, and bites their hands, our front garden is small but right on a river so he is off lead for swimming" but when he hears people walking on the path he goes mad, we try to catch /control him but it's not always possible. He is also resource guarding things that he steals off kitchen etc, he snaps and snarls at us if we attempt to remove. The final issue is at mealtimes" he launches himself at the table to steal food* we do crate him with a Kong but he now just barks relentlessly. His food is Millie's wolfheart so we wonder if the protein content is an issue, but any tips / training techniques would he appreciated
 

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Many people are not going to like or agree with what I’m about to say, but I’m going to say it anyway. I don’t like “Dog day care!” The problem is that you are dependent on what the day care does. You are not controlling the formative period, somebody else is. I know people have to work, so the question people have to ask is, how are you going to tackle this? We all have to decide. I know what my position would be. Trouble is, many people use day care so normally there are several dogs in at the same time, and a variety of ages. The dogs spend the day hooleing around, having a great time. They are learning that other dogs are great fun, indeed more fun that their owner! Not what I want at all! I want my pups learning patience, being calm and under my control. I want ME to be the centre of their life, not every dog which they meet. When I go out for a walk with them I’m happy for them to meet other dogs, but calmly and under my control. I also what them to meet people calmly sitting beside me.

But looking at specifics, many of these are within your control.

He jumps up on people walking past our house, and bites their hands,
In this day and age, with dogs fetching the kind of money they are now I would never allow my dogs into the front garden on their own! To a thief a Labrador is two and a half to three thousand pounds in the bank!

He is also resource guarding things that he steals off kitchen etc, he snaps and snarls at us if we attempt to remove.
Think about this for a moment. The two most important things for all animals including humans are food and procreation. Without these two things the specie is doomed, so it is programmed into them from birth. People often say to practise taking their food away to exert your authority. DONT DO IT! If you took my food away I’d snap at you! I try to NEVER take things away from my dogs, particularly food. There is no doubt that Labrador owners become very tidy people! But as I work my dogs I teach them to bring me things from a very early age. I leave low value things around on the floor and when my pup picks it up I call her to me with a happy voice, “What have you got there sweetheart?” Take it, then say, “Oh thats a good girl, you can have that.” And give it back. So you see, my pups never get the idea that I’m going to steal their “New toy” so are always happy to bring me things. OK there is always the occasion when they pick up something they really cant have, but to me thats not their fault, it’s my fault for leaving it in a position where they can get at it.

His food is Millie's wolfheart so we wonder if the protein content is an issue
Food often gets the blame for hyperactivity, but it is rarely to blame. More usually it’s more a lifestyle thing. Millie's wolfheart is a good quality food, unlikely to be the source of your problem
 

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Many people are not going to like or agree with what I’m about to say, but I’m going to say it anyway. I don’t like “Dog day care!” The problem is that you are dependent on what the day care does. You are not controlling the formative period, somebody else is. I know people have to work, so the question people have to ask is, how are you going to tackle this? We all have to decide. I know what my position would be. Trouble is, many people use day care so normally there are several dogs in at the same time, and a variety of ages. The dogs spend the day hooleing around, having a great time. They are learning that other dogs are great fun, indeed more fun that their owner! Not what I want at all! I want my pups learning patience, being calm and under my control. I want ME to be the centre of their life, not every dog which they meet. When I go out for a walk with them I’m happy for them to meet other dogs, but calmly and under my control. I also what them to meet people calmly sitting beside me.

But looking at specifics, many of these are within your control.



In this day and age, with dogs fetching the kind of money they are now I would never allow my dogs into the front garden on their own! To a thief a Labrador is two and a half to three thousand pounds in the bank!



Think about this for a moment. The two most important things for all animals including humans are food and procreation. Without these two things the specie is doomed, so it is programmed into them from birth. People often say to practise taking their food away to exert your authority. DONT DO IT! If you took my food away I’d snap at you! I try to NEVER take things away from my dogs, particularly food. There is no doubt that Labrador owners become very tidy people! But as I work my dogs I teach them to bring me things from a very early age. I leave low value things around on the floor and when my pup picks it up I call her to me with a happy voice, “What have you got there sweetheart?” Take it, then say, “Oh thats a good girl, you can have that.” And give it back. So you see, my pups never get the idea that I’m going to steal their “New toy” so are always happy to bring me things. OK there is always the occasion when they pick up something they really cant have, but to me thats not their fault, it’s my fault for leaving it in a position where they can get at it.



Food often gets the blame for hyperactivity, but it is rarely to blame. More usually it’s more a lifestyle thing. Millie's wolfheart is a good quality food, unlikely to be the source of your problem
We would never leave the dog unattended! He's out on the river with us at all times. Will try and teach him to start bringing things back though as opposed to going over and trying to get what ever it is out his mouth as it's clearly not working at the moment.
 

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We would never leave the dog unattended! He's out on the river with us at all times. Will try and teach him to start bringing things back though as opposed to going over and trying to get what ever it is out his mouth as it's clearly not working at the moment.
Just putting in my two penny's worth, but more by way of encouragement because I certainly don't have John's experience. I think I know how you must feel, I love my girl Jas but training is a daily challenge - I feel like it's a constant round of supervision and regular reviewing of what's working well and what's definitely not working 😉 The jumping and snapping - she still, at almost 8 months does this, I've gone up a gear on this, anyone, dog lover or not, gets told " please turn your back on her, no talking or petting, when she is calm and only if she stays calm, I allow a little meet and greet. It's clear from reading all the threads on this topic that some labs are calmer and some more naturally boisterous, a personality thing along with us flawed humans just trying to do our best 😀
I won't comment on the dog day care, I have the luxury of not needing to use it.
Giving up stuff - I've worked hard on this, loads of leave it/take it training and the method for that is explained well on these pages. Also the retrieve training with ball or dummy helps, she fetches and now gives beautifully with a soft mouth, not always for a treat either, so progress is being made - hurrah! Guarding food, I sometimes add food to the bowl while she is eating, so that she is sure I'm the giver of good things but wouldn't remove food.
If I do need to remove something, I will occasionally offer a swap, so.......give me the lovely rock you are chewing.....here you go, a nice gravy bone instead, but the aim is for her to give it up for a " good girl " and we are getting there. Good luck
 

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Just putting in my two penny's worth, but more by way of encouragement because I certainly don't have John's experience. I think I know how you must feel, I love my girl Jas but training is a daily challenge - I feel like it's a constant round of supervision and regular reviewing of what's working well and what's definitely not working 😉 The jumping and snapping - she still, at almost 8 months does this, I've gone up a gear on this, anyone, dog lover or not, gets told " please turn your back on her, no talking or petting, when she is calm and only if she stays calm, I allow a little meet and greet. It's clear from reading all the threads on this topic that some labs are calmer and some more naturally boisterous, a personality thing along with us flawed humans just trying to do our best 😀
I won't comment on the dog day care, I have the luxury of not needing to use it.
Giving up stuff - I've worked hard on this, loads of leave it/take it training and the method for that is explained well on these pages. Also the retrieve training with ball or dummy helps, she fetches and now gives beautifully with a soft mouth, not always for a treat either, so progress is being made - hurrah! Guarding food, I sometimes add food to the bowl while she is eating, so that she is sure I'm the giver of good things but wouldn't remove food.
If I do need to remove something, I will occasionally offer a swap, so.......give me the lovely rock you are chewing.....here you go, a nice gravy bone instead, but the aim is for her to give it up for a " good girl " and we are getting there. Good luck
Thanks,we will start trying the ignore method. He's great off the lead when there are no people around and recall is really good tbh for a dog his age. Seems to pick training up quickly (alot better than previous dog) but the mouthing and jumping up is the biggest concern. He's definitely getting more boisterous and harder to handle though,
due to his age a suppose. Hopefully we can get on top of it soon
 
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