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Old 07-05-2006, 12:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i weighed mambo yesterday & im ashamed to say it he weighs 42kg!!!!!!!!!!! i know its my fault i feel guilty i let it go that far n i hadnt realized i didnt think he looked fat n he looks perfectly fine to me but when we got mylo it mambo look huge!!!! mylo is def underweight so the difference between them is more pronounced but i decided mambo needs to loose a bit so we've cut out all treats except for training mambo has pedigree complete sensitive (anything else goes staight through him) on the bag the feeding guide is to weight of dog is it to what he should weigh or what he does weigh? n how much do i cut his food by?
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Old 07-05-2006, 10:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Is he fat or is he just heavy?

My parents had a black lab called Prince, he was 40kgs and he certainly wasn't fat - he just had a heavier bone build and lots of muscle. So different in build to my Corrie who weighs 30kg.
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Old 07-05-2006, 11:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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He is certainly carrying too much weight, which of course could do him no good at all in years to come, particulaly his heart, so yes, I'd work on it now to bring him down a bit. Aim at coming down to around 35kg as a starting point, you may decide to bring him down further later but that's a good aiming point.

I'm not a good one at talking weight of food, I've never weighed it in my life! I work in hands full and half hands full and I would start by cutting him by a good half hand full at each meal.

Personally I wish manufacturers would not put "Recomended feeding" amounts on their foods. The amounts dogs need varies widely. Anna for example gets 1.5 hands full of complete at each meal whereas Amy gets 2.5 hands full and the same applied to my old Beth and Lucy with Lucy getting half of what Beth was getting.

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Old 07-05-2006, 12:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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thanks john i cant undetrstand y he put it on in the first place i hadnt changed his food amount or exersize i think the kids must of been sneaking him treats n with 5 it would soon add up to quite a bit extra!!! so they are all under strict instruction to give him nothing (& i hid the treat jar just incase) n i cut his food by a handful last night idealy id like to get him somewhere between 30-35kg so we,ll see how he goes
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One of the reasons is often not allowing for the fact that as a puppy is growing fast it needs proportionally enormous amounts of food. Think of the food as a two part thing. Part can be thought of as a "Maintenance" thing, what’s needed to cover day to day needs. The second part is food needed to sustain growth. Growth slows as the puppy gets older so the growth part of the food needs reducing, but because the pup is larger the maintenance portion needs to be bigger. If you think about it, just about the fastest growing period is the first 12 weeks and feeding levels need increasing. By 6 months the growth has slowed to quite a low lever so part of the food has sunk to a very small portion but the maintenance part is almost at adult levels. By a year old the growth part has shrunk to about zero but the dog is very little larger than at 6 months so the total amount of food required may even need to reduced!

So often this catches people out. They continue feeding the levels that the pup needed when it was growing fast but the pup's need had dropped. Of course, this is always made worse by the fact that a Labrador will never tell you this!

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Old 07-05-2006, 04:34 PM   #6 (permalink)
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can i just ask

when you do training with the amount of treats you give do you take this from his food allowance (so to speak.lol)

if im going out for say 2hrs i will fill a kong with food/biscuits and put it in rosze crate then on her proper meal i will not give the normal 1.5cups (i work in cups..lol) i will only give 1cup..

it is hard work calculating the weight of your dog most ppl say as long as ou can stroke your dog and faintly feel his ribs then he is ok ther is a weight difference betweeen my 2 labs but there body build is different so i cant compare them at all.. rosze is 31.90 and brandy is 26-7kg ..
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Labrador weights can vary so much. A slim working bitch towards the end of a hard season in the field wokking might be as low as 25kg whereas a large dog, well muscled could be as high as 35kg. Even the might not be the extreme limits. Anna at one time went to 35kg but she is a very big bitch and was in very hard muscle. As she was so poorly and missed most of last season she has lost some muscle tone and I've brought her weight down to a more normal bitch weight of 31kg. Amy is just a year old but again a big girl and is just 1kg less than Anna at 30kg. I will need to watch her size now her growing has almost stopped.

Treats are not a problem with my dogs because I never use them in training. Yes, they do get treats but at 2 at mid day and 2 last thing at night their intake is always the same so is easy to allow for.

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yes i do allow for them but as i said i think its very probable all 5 kids have been handing them out!!!!!!!! n i think john is right regarding from puppy to adult stage hes now 21mnths n has recently filled out into dog shape from the skinny pup phase also his bowl is bigger than the one he had previously so the amount i was giving him probably looked deceptive coz last night his bowl looked empty yet i knew it was the right amount so i have def been feeding him too much
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hi back again i did manage to get his weight down to 40kg but when he was weighed yest hes back to 42kg!!! i really dont understand y ive been so careful with his food he only has treats at training wich we havent been to for the last 2 weeks due to my back (we start again tomorrow) his exersize hasnt changed hes fed raw n i deducted from the amount hes meant to have from a 35kg dog when i started feeding him raw about a month ago i cant work out y hes not loosing it help

he gets 800g raw split into 2 meals a day
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I think some Labs are just "good doers" and need less food than others. Like people and horses too, the ones with bags of nervous energy seem to remain slim without any effort, whereas the laid back ones are forever on a diet :roll: .

I would just cut his food down. I wouldn't go by any recommended amounts, as these recommendations do not take into account of his type, temperament, or amount of exercise.

I would reduce his food by about a third and see if he loses weight then. If he loses too much, then up his rations by a bit again :wink: . If he still doesn't lose any weight then reduce his food further.

Also watch out for any scavenging. Could he be helping himself to anything, other dogs food, cat food, bins etc? Or is someone else in the house falling for his "I'm soooo hungry, can I have a bit of your sandwich" routine ?

I know it's hard, as most Labs do seem to be permanently starving, but it's for his own good :wink: .
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