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Old 18-12-2008, 02:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have read a lot of post on the forum regards Hills Science plan not being that great and how the vets only recommend it as they get a "kick back" can anyone tell me why that is not that good a food??????? as my dog seems fine on it and am pretty sure a vet wouldnt sell something that isnt suitable for its purpose.

With regards kick backs!!! My vets sells this food 10quid per bag cheaper then any other pet shop near by. Just because the vets recommend it does not necessarily mean they get this so called kick back and if they are then so what???? its still cheaper for me to get it from the vet then buying it in the high street large pet chains!!!!!!!!!!

Are we implying that the well known pet superstores are getting a kick backs from every dog food manufacturer out there as they stock it all under one roof.......... Oh no if its a pet shop it profit.... if its a vets its a kick back i have never heard so much rubbish......

The world revolves around kick/ backs (profit) i think mr vet could earn himself quite enough without selling the dog food aswell!!!!!!!!!
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Its the only food we have found that works for Jacks sensitive tummy.

I think when someone finds a food which suits their dog they are going to of course recommend it but if it doesnt suit then they wont.

If Hills suits your dog then I would keep with it.



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Hi Tisme

Well I fed my old cat and dog on Hills maintenance and senior science plan for years with very good results.

I was also a veterinary nurse in several practices in the UK and the only 'reward' the vets got from selling any brand of food was a discount for buying in bulk, which seems fair enough in my book.
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If you're happy with the food, your dog is doing well on it, and the price you can get it for suits you, then I'd say keep going with it rather than getting 'het up' about it all! I have no experience of this brand of food and I haven't looked back through the archive, but I strongly suspect there would be a number of good, informative threads that would explain the rationale some people may have for not feeding a particular brand, and IMO it usually comes down to ingredients first and foremost.

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Old 18-12-2008, 03:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Shona gets Hills, which we get from the vet school (where I work) and the vets feed their dogs on it! They get a discount because they buy in bulk and often they can sell it cheaper as they are not in it for the profit as much as some of the larger chains (although they are of course a business and therefore aim to increase profits!).

As other people have said, feed your dog something you are happy with and seems to suit their digestion/health/condition. I am very happy with Hills and the colleagues of mine who are vets recommend it and they don't see any benefit of that advice in their wages!

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I really can't see why you are so wound up about it. :? Plenty of people do feed Hills, and plenty don't. If it suits your dog and you like it then stick with it.

I feed Burns because it suits my dogs nicely. Not everyone likes it though.

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I feed my pup on Hills large breed puppy at the moment and thats what the breeder fed him and recomended.
I have had absolutly no problems with him and he wolfs it down.

Like previous comments say if it suits you then stick by it. Plenty feed it to there dogs plenty don't.

Its your choice.

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Old 18-12-2008, 03:55 PM   #8 (permalink)
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If you want to feed Hills, then that's your decision isn't it, you don't have to take note of people who don't want to.

I think there are a few differences between a vet promoting and selling Hills and a petshop selling lots of different products.

For a start some people regard their vet as some kind of god, that what they say is always correct and therefore if the vet suggests Hills, some people will think that means it's the best food and buy it. People don't tend to think of petshop staff in the same way, plus there's quite a choice of food in most petshops/online stores and I have never had a petshop try to sell me a particular food without me inviting it. Not so for vets. I won't buy a pet food just because my vet recommends it, but plenty will, without looking into the ingredients, price etc.

I am not a Hills fan, not least because the company tests on animals and I prefer to buy products that aren't tested, where possible.

For anyone that does feed Hills, does it contain BHA/BHT? That's something else I try to avoid in pet foods but I'm not sure where Hills stands on this.
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BHA and BHT are the additive ethoxyquin. It was used years ago in human baby food, but was banned because it is carcinogenic and may have some effect on behaviour. I can't say for certain whether it is in Hills or not without reading the packet, but I think it probably is.

I know they are EC permitted, but I too prefer to use a food that is additive free as far as I can tell. If it is not 100% safe to give to humans then why should it be 100% safe for dogs?

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I think the issue for me is that vets are in a position of responsibility, they are perceived by the mass public to be in an advisory role and not a salesman role......yet many repeatedly push the hills products on paying visitors as 'advice'.
For some cases it is advice (and good advice at that) for other dogs it's really not the only option....yet the food is claimed to be 'the only food worth feeding' (had that said to me several times)

I have less of an issue now you can buy hills elsewhere....I'm sure it used to be only available from vets which made it all worse, like it was some super-food :?

I've lived in london, guernsey, singapore and essex in the last few years and every vet has 'pushed' the hills products.
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