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Old 21-02-2017, 12:46 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I got the same one about an hour ago. I'm really happy with Millies so will continue using. I'm sure the increase won't make much of a difference to the monthly cost for one dog. A 12kg bag lasts us around 42 days although will use a lot more when new pup arrives.
We get around 30 days. So for Mason every month we are 36.99 for food, 37 for insurance and 12.50 for his vet plan.

If I can save a few quid without compromising his health then I'm open to alternatives.

It turns out that 'Country Kibble' is made by the same company that produces kibble for Millies Wolfheart. Actually the main brands are all made by the same company.

I could actually go to them and produce my own brand.

They say the have 70 formulas to choose from and I could be up and running with my own label within 7 days. I don't even need to handle the product as they will ship food with my label straight to my customers door.

So my way of thinking is there must be different brands out there that contain the same kibble inside so I'm now looking to identify cheaper brands that contain the same kibble as the more 'trusted' brands.
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Old 21-02-2017, 02:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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We get around 30 days. So for Mason every month we are 36.99 for food, 37 for insurance and 12.50 for his vet plan.

If I can save a few quid without compromising his health then I'm open to alternatives.

It turns out that 'Country Kibble' is made by the same company that produces kibble for Millies Wolfheart. Actually the main brands are all made by the same company.

I could actually go to them and produce my own brand.

They say the have 70 formulas to choose from and I could be up and running with my own label within 7 days. I don't even need to handle the product as they will ship food with my label straight to my customers door.

So my way of thinking is there must be different brands out there that contain the same kibble inside so I'm now looking to identify cheaper brands that contain the same kibble as the more 'trusted' brands.
I would love to only pay 37 a month for pet insurance! It costs more for Cola than it does for 2 of our cars. Having pets certainly isn't cheap!
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Old 21-02-2017, 06:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I would love to only pay 37 a month for pet insurance! It costs more for Cola than it does for 2 of our cars. Having pets certainly isn't cheap!
Is that just for Cola or the cats too? I'm with Petplan and we're just shy of 40/month for Gemma. Started around the low 30's but creeps up a couple of quid each year.

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We get around 30 days. So for Mason every month we are 36.99 for food, 37 for insurance and 12.50 for his vet plan.
I'm sorry this is off-topic but I have to ask, do you find you get value for money from the vet plan? Our vets gave me the hard sell on their version when we went for our boosters in January. The main includes were vaccinations, worming, fleeing and nail clipping, plus a heap of 10% discounts off things that we've already had (like spaying), things that would be covered on the insurance, or discounts off their food/toys/equipment retailing which are extortionate both before and after the discount!

I paid 30 for her booster, worming and flea treatments 110/yr, and I've learned to do her nails myself which is such an easier life to do at home where I can make it a nice experience for her, and avoid taking her in to spread her Lab Love to everyone So it looked like even-stevens really, plus it's way more convenient to get supplies delivered to my door than than drag myself to the vets.

Besides, I have Direct Debit phobia! Have you noticed the way the world is going... almost no-one is happy just to sell you something outright any more, every begger wants to tell you a subscription so they have predictable recurring revenue. All those tenner/month's can so easily get out of hand, so I resist such where ever I can.
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I pay 41 a month for Cola with petplan, the cat is around 18
We are in the vets healthy pet club which is 21 a month combined for both.

Insurance and pet club will increase when new pup comes along, petplan give a discount of a whole 1 a month for each new pet.

I should really cancel the vet club as don't feel it's very good value for money, I'm just too lazy!

Ours includes more or less the same as yours, boosters, working/flea treatment. 10% off surgery/teeth cleaning etc and a discount on their food which I wouldn't use anyway. You get a 6 monthly check up as well.

I can get the working/flea treatments cheaper myself but annoying I would need a prescription for her worming stuff unless I swapped to something else.

I think I'm going to have a good look online this weekend and will end up cancelling the healthy pet club shortly.
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I'm sorry this is off-topic but I have to ask, do you find you get value for money from the vet plan? Our vets gave me the hard sell on their version when we went for our boosters in January. The main includes were vaccinations, worming, fleeing and nail clipping, plus a heap of 10% discounts off things that we've already had (like spaying), things that would be covered on the insurance, or discounts off their food/toys/equipment retailing which are extortionate both before and after the discount!

I paid 30 for her booster, worming and flea treatments 110/yr, and I've learned to do her nails myself which is such an easier life to do at home where I can make it a nice experience for her, and avoid taking her in to spread her Lab Love to everyone So it looked like even-stevens really, plus it's way more convenient to get supplies delivered to my door than than drag myself to the vets.

Besides, I have Direct Debit phobia! Have you noticed the way the world is going... almost no-one is happy just to sell you something outright any more, every begger wants to tell you a subscription so they have predictable recurring revenue. All those tenner/month's can so easily get out of hand, so I resist such where ever I can.
I know what you mean about Direct Debits every month I feel like there has been a smash and grab on my account.

With regards to the vet plan value - I think its ok.

Mason gets Advocate for extra large dogs monthly. The cheapest I found this was vet uk for 18.30 for three which over the year is 73.20 or 85.20 with four lots of p&p. Droncit was another 12 for the year so I'm up to 97.20 But I would then need to factor in the prescription charges for the Advocate on top of that.

So I think overall what I pay for the plan balances with his advocate and droncit was costing me.

The plan also gives me his annual vaccination and two health checks.

So I'm saving a wee bit.

Now whether I could buy Advocate directly from the Vet without the prescription charge - I don't know. If I could then perhaps the saving is negligible.
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This threads already gone off topic, so...............

Why do you flea and worm every month for a condition your dog doesn't even have? Cost aside, I don't cover my kids in chemicals every month to prevent head lice or worms, just treat things should they get them!
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Why do you flea and worm every month for a condition your dog doesn't even have? Cost aside, I don't cover my kids in chemicals every month to prevent head lice or worms, just treat things should they get them!

I don't worm of flea every month, the plan is paid monthly.
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Why do you flea and worm every month for a condition your dog doesn't even have? Cost aside, I don't cover my kids in chemicals every month to prevent head lice or worms, just treat things should they get them!
I use advocate monthly because a dog nearby died from heartworm picked up from ticks.

The above is slightly incorrect. Mason get Advocate monthly for protection against lungworm which is suspected of killing a dog a few miles away. Otherwise he'd get it every three months

A number of dogs I know have also picked up ticks.

I caught Mason carrying a stick recently that had a little cluster of ticks on it

He gets droncit every 6 months.
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Why do you flea and worm every month for a condition your dog doesn't even have? Cost aside, I don't cover my kids in chemicals every month to prevent head lice or worms, just treat things should they get them!
True, but wouldn't you say that dogs have a higher risk profile? All hair, and getting into places that adults and kids would not be typically crawling around in?

I'm in the preventative camp on flea's simply because I cannot face the idea of having an outbreak in the house and what getting on top of that might entail. Especially so as Gemma is allowed to share all the human furniture (beds included!). I really need to know I've got a clean, uninfected dog resting her head on my pillows and cushions! Ewww makes my skin itch just thinking about it!

Ticks, I'm fortunate to have never had to deal with one, maybe luck or a benefit of prevention, but I get the impression that they are no fun to get rid of safely (have a tick-twister in the first aid kit just in case). Nor would I necessarily trust myself to vigorously spot if she did have one. Just gives me one less thing to worry about I guess.

I worm on schedule too. Could perhaps reconsider that though, I guess I just fell into the habit. My original motivation was a fear of what she could pick up from eating all kinds of disgusting treasures, but (fingers crossed) that's a thing of the past now. I suppose the other risk might be that we frequent dog-busy areas like the local park so she is highly exposed to where 100's of other dogs have been, and she shares some popular watering holes for a drink and a cool down, which again, will have had plenty of others in doing the same thing. Maybe not so bad after rainfall where there is some fresh water current, but during the dryer seasons it can be pretty still with gawd knows what lurking in there.

More than happy to have any flaws in my logic pointed out though

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I use advocate monthly because a dog nearby died from heartworm picked up from ticks. A number of dogs I know have also picked up ticks.

I caught Mason carrying a stick recently that had a little cluster of ticks on it

He gets droncit every 6 months.
Heartworm doesn't come from ticks! It comes from the bite of an infected mosquito.

My two both got a few ticks last year, not sure if there's more about recently, but if you have a tick tool they're very easy to remove.
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