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Old 29-02-2016, 03:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
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OK, so I've chatted with the good people at MWH and (despite husband's view that they are biased cos they are selling something) I found the woman to be very helpful.

She said Monty may have food intolerances that he develops quickly when he has the same food for a long time and we therefore may need to change him every 2-3 months. This does tie in with the pattern of him being really fine and firm for a few months and then a catalogue of whippy poos for seemingly no reason (and vet checked no illness).

Paddy, I looked at the Markus Murhle Natur Nar after your recommendation and they do seem to be very well recommended. I think the video speaks for itself! I'm only slightly put off by not being able to keep in an airtight concealer and the smell?

Phil, I defo think we can up Monty's raw diet but I'm not sure I'm ready for 100% commitment. I think I might play the field a little more! I'm not good with prepping meat for us, let alone offal etc for the dog. However, I've read morrisons do a good selection of pre packaged offal and bones so I might investigate and perhaps remove 1 meal (he still has 3) and replace with raw?

So I think I'm going to go down MFH. The lady recommended Utility Mix as it's the mildest and fish based so easy to digest. However, if this food intolerance thing does mean we need to change him regularly then I definitely think the cold pressed kibble will be my next try.

I get a delivery tomorrow so will update you on his constitution then!

I'm guessing you spoke to Jenny? She is lovely and has always been very helpful when I have phoned. Hopefully the Millies suits him and I bet he loves it

They do advise swapping foods every 3-4 months anyway to give some variety so 2-3 is good even if they think he may have intolerances.

I do genuinely find them very helpful whenever I have been in touch, hopefully you find it firms things up a bit Did they give you a starting guide re portion sizes? You may find that you have to adjust things a bit once he is consistently on it for a few days but we have had no problems since.
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Old 01-03-2016, 02:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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It's arrived! Monty is checking out the new grub. Fingers crossed it settles his tummy.

Will keep you posted
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Old 02-03-2016, 08:15 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Morning all.

So yesterday we added half and half of the new MWH food. They suggested moving him over quite quickly as the mix they've recommended is very gentle.

We only had one 'number two' yesterday that was perfectly normal and firm. He then didn't go for the rest of the day which seemed to be his digestion catching up.

This morning we've given him 100g of the new food and he's done his usual post breakfast poo but it started off very firm and ended up quite runny.

He's off to doggy day care today and I'm unsure what to send him off with. We've reduced his portion from 110g to 100g on their advice. I wonder if we need to reduce it again to 80g or go back to half pasta and half kibble and do it more gently...

What do you all think?
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Old 02-03-2016, 10:34 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I would see what the day brings, my lot can sometimes go softish when they have an ingredient change [same food], it happened last week with Mischa.

I wasn't sure if it was result of Advocate or new MWH, I am a bit of a meany mum when mine go sloppy, I miss a meal then the next one is reduced with a squirt of Prokolin, she was fine the following day.

For daycare if she needs a midday feed ask the carer to only feed if poo this morning is normal, otherwise miss the meal out.

Not good timing changing when you he is away for day, as excitement can also make some dogs squity.

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Old 05-03-2016, 04:50 PM   #15 (permalink)
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So we keep hitting bumps in the road with Monty's sensitive stomach.

I took Jenny's advice at MWH (she was very helpful) and switched him to the utility mix over two days. He had some runny poos each morning and yesterday lunchtime and hubby and I wondered if we'd switched him too quickly (although we were assured the utility mix is the most gentle and fish based which us easy to break up). We were relieved last night when he woke us up for a night time poo (he hadn't been since a runny poo in the morning yesterday) and it was fine and firm so gave him a smaller feed for breakfast followed by another firm poo.

However, he had his lunch at midday and around three o'clock sicked it all up. As always with Monty. He seems fine within himself and shook it off as soon as he'd been sick.

We are desperately trying to work out whether there is an issue with the food which would suggest some sort of intolerance that we may need to get tested for, or if there's a bit of an illness going round. Or to add to the confusion, I took him to the park after lunch and he was chewing lots of grass so might be that?

I find it so disheartening that we seem to take one step forwards and another back with overcoming his soft poo issue!

He has this issue at least once a month and I really thought this new food would help him out. Am now not so sure and wondering whether to strip him back to pasta and chicken?
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Not sure Kate, if firm poo's had started before the grass eating then I think maybe just feed small amount of Millies for tea and see how it go's.

The grass is a sign tummy is upset sometimes, but not always, and Suzie eats grass all the time, not usually sick though, she is much older and probably digests food better.

Try not to worry, if you have some prokolin maybe worth a squirt on tea.

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I would say keep him on the same food for at least a month unless he is really ill. It can take between 2 and 6 weeks for the system to settle down after a change so by changing frequently you're not giving any of the foods a chance. Excitement, exercise and fear can all cause runny poo as can overfeeding and bugs such as guardia.

If you stick to the same food, maybe reduce the amount and if things don't improve ask the vet to test a stool sample.

You could also try adding a probiotic to his food, either as powder or a yoghurt drink (mine love Actimel).

I wouldn't have thought that Millies would cause a reaction unless he has an intolerance to one of the ingredients but as it is so pure it would be unusual. However there are some dogs that are intolerant to fish or potato.
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Thanks June. I know he's fine in himself as he's lively and as bright as a button but something is obviously disagreeing with him internally!

We did have s few solid poos before the sick so perhaps he ate something he shouldn't have on our walk and the food and sick aren't linked.

I'll try a small dinner and see what happens. Just hope we can get him back on track!
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Thanks Pam. This is the first change of food he's had since November so we're hoping he'll settle down.

I'm just wondering if there is an intolerance to something but I think I'll stick to a small dinner and persevere with it as I know it's better for him than the pro plan
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I feed Ruby Utility, she is allergic to just about everything and so this fish and potato food really suits her. I'd be really surprised if it was the fish or potato. I would stick with it for the time being.

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