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Old 08-06-2015, 09:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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We have a 5 month old lab and we have been told/read so many conflicting things regarding feeding so I thought I would ask for advice from experienced lab owners

We began feeding as per the guidelines on the food packet but have been told to ignore this and basically make it up as we go along.

How much should we be feeding a 5 month old lab and going forward increasing to how much at what stages? We are feeding 3 times a day.

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What are you feeding him/her? Every food will have its own feeding guidelines.

I feed Millies Wolfheart and the guidelines for my 13 week old are roughly 165g a day but looking at JWB for example I would need to feed around 350g of their puppy food

You just need to be guided by your puppy,body condition and by what comes out at the other end
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We began feeding as per the guidelines on the food packet but have been told to ignore this and basically make it up as we go along.
I would largely agree, but that's a slight over-simplification. The problem is that the packet guidelines are hopelessly generic, as they can never take into account every breed of dog, every size, different metabolisms, and different exercise/activity levels. Nor do those figures account for how many training treats etc your dog is getting in a typical day (which for us, when I stopped to work it through, was adding up to a whole extra meal!).

I wouldn't say ignore them, because we all have to start somewhere, but having personally got this wrong myself and have had to put Gemma on a diet twice (and she's not even two yet!) I've learned to take the lowest recommended amount as a starting point and go from there.

Then it's a case of exactly what ttfan has said. Use your eyes and hands to judge your pup's body condition and raise or lower accordingly. A little bit of structure helps and making changes in +/- 10% increments, monitor for a fortnight then decide to stay or change is a reasonable approach.

Personally I like to weigh out every meal on some kitchen scales. I like to know what Gemma is getting to the gram, and there is too much variance by the cup or by the handful for my own liking.

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How much should we be feeding a 5 month old lab and going forward increasing to how much at what stages? We are feeding 3 times a day.
It really depends on the food and the individual dog and your own judgement. If I'd have kept scaling up Gemma's food as per the months of age guidelines on the packet, she'd have been the size of a whale!
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Burns would be 20g per kg of body weight for a puppy but other brands would be double this amount. It all depends on the food you are using.
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Its very confusing isn't it?!

We have a four month old dog called Gibbs who we are feeding James Welbeloved. On the side of the pack it gives general recommendations based on the expected adult weight. Which is great when you don't have a clue how big your puppy is going to grow!

One way to figure out if you are on the right lines is what comes out the other end - puppies will often have very soft poo or worse if over feeding (this can be from other things too though so its not set in stone!)

We found we were over feeding our pup and so went down to about 150g three times a day and his poo has gone back to normal.

He is going to the vets later today and is going to be weighed so hopefully will find out if he is about the right weight
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What are you feeding him/her? Every food will have its own feeding guidelines.

I feed Millies Wolfheart and the guidelines for my 13 week old are roughly 165g a day but looking at JWB for example I would need to feed around 350g of their puppy food

You just need to be guided by your puppy,body condition and by what comes out at the other end
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Thank you for your reply. We are feeding Milo Royal Canin currently. We began measuring as per the guidelines but were told to give a couple of handfuls which is all very well but he is growing fast and this measurement won't suffice long term. I am concerned about having an overweight lab as I know labs are prone to gain weight. He has been weighed and is fine but now we are feeding 3 times a day instead of 4 we want to be sure we are feeding the correct amount. We are also considering changing his food to Burns? The breeder fed Milo Bakers so we tried him on JWB turkey/chicken and rice which seemed to give him the poo's. We tried him on the fish JWB which we were told is a little more gentle but the kibble size didn't agree with him because he inhales his food. We then tried Royal Canin and all was well but his poo's vary, mostly normal but occasionally a little soft, he also poo's for Britain (I assume this is normal) and his wind is very smelly. He is thriving otherwise. So for all of those reasons we were thinking of trying Burns, recommended by a fellow lab owner. Milo gets on best with small kibble. Any recommendations welcome
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I would largely agree, but that's a slight over-simplification. The problem is that the packet guidelines are hopelessly generic, as they can never take into account every breed of dog, every size, different metabolisms, and different exercise/activity levels. Nor do those figures account for how many training treats etc your dog is getting in a typical day (which for us, when I stopped to work it through, was adding up to a whole extra meal!).

I wouldn't say ignore them, because we all have to start somewhere, but having personally got this wrong myself and have had to put Gemma on a diet twice (and she's not even two yet!) I've learned to take the lowest recommended amount as a starting point and go from there.

Then it's a case of exactly what ttfan has said. Use your eyes and hands to judge your pup's body condition and raise or lower accordingly. A little bit of structure helps and making changes in +/- 10% increments, monitor for a fortnight then decide to stay or change is a reasonable approach.

Personally I like to weigh out every meal on some kitchen scales. I like to know what Gemma is getting to the gram, and there is too much variance by the cup or by the handful for my own liking.

It really depends on the food and the individual dog and your own judgement. If I'd have kept scaling up Gemma's food as per the months of age guidelines on the packet, she'd have been the size of a whale!
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Thank you, I agree completely that every dog has different needs. I too like to use weighing scales because I feel then that I know exactly what Milo is getting rather than using guess work. Being so young and growing so quickly some days he looks a little plump and other days he's longer, taller and slimmer so I think am I feeding him correctly or not. We also get through food like there is no tomorrow and it doesn't help that we are still not sure if Royal Canin is the brand we are going to stick with. We don't want to keep changing as it's not good for him. The guidelines on the bag are a little confusing too!
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Burns would be 20g per kg of body weight for a puppy but other brands would be double this amount. It all depends on the food you are using.
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Are you using Burns? How do you find it and what is the kibble size like? Burns has been recommended to us as we have had a few issues with food since getting Milo. Currently we are feeding Royal Canin.
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We are soon going down to feeding 3 times a day,the daily amount will remain unchanged until we increase more as she grows.

If the poo is soft he is maybe getting too much or the food may not be suiting. He shouldn't really be pooing for Britain though.

Different foods will suit different dogs and there is so much to choose from. Have you checked out reviews for different brands?

Some foods will have more fillers than others to bulk them out.
When we were looking it was going to be between Millies and Simpsons,Millies was chosen and Cola loves it. It has a good meat content and no grains/rice. I'm happy with it,cola likes it and her pops are great(you know what I mean) firm,not smelly and she doesn't poo loads.
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Its very confusing isn't it?!

We have a four month old dog called Gibbs who we are feeding James Welbeloved. On the side of the pack it gives general recommendations based on the expected adult weight. Which is great when you don't have a clue how big your puppy is going to grow!

One way to figure out if you are on the right lines is what comes out the other end - puppies will often have very soft poo or worse if over feeding (this can be from other things too though so its not set in stone!)

We found we were over feeding our pup and so went down to about 150g three times a day and his poo has gone back to normal.

He is going to the vets later today and is going to be weighed so hopefully will find out if he is about the right weight
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Completely confusing! If it's not insurance it's food! There are too many products on the market.

We tried JWB and wanted to ideally stick with it but his poo's were very soft on the turkey/chicken and rice and he threw up the fish JWB because he refuses to chew anything and the kibble is bigger even though it is still for a puppy. So we tried Royal Canin and all is well but he does poo an awful lot mostly normal though and he has very smelly wind which I read is down to diet so we are considering changing again but this isn't good for him.

Hope you got on ok at the vets.
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