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Old 01-11-2019, 06:46 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thank you All
I am afraid I cannot wait 5 years!! Bolli was a complete Fruit Cake on her On-lead Street walks despite me hoping it would be good for her to spend more time on-lead. We still have the Complete Great Dane Next door... He is now nearly 2 and I just don't want the risk of him getting through our fencing - Which is secure for Bolli - But no idea if it would hold back a VERY LARGE Dane if he really wanted to get through. But we are limited as to what we can put up due to all the Trees/Bushes etc.

We also go abroad for a few weeks in Spring & Summer We have Bolli/House -
Sitters that will look after her - It isn't fair to expect others to have to deal with it. I will wait until the Vets think she is ready - But really appreciate your comments
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Old 01-11-2019, 06:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I don't walk my in season girls, which solves that problem. They are used to being confined to the house and dog yard, which is not a bad thing, I've had to rest dogs due to injury before so they are fine, Rhuna is the worst for sulking if she can't go out.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:51 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Something I wrote some time back.

The first thing to remember is that all bitches feel their seasons differently so making hard and fast rules of both identifying the start and the finish difficult, but saying that, there are plenty of little signs if you know what you are looking for.

Starting at the beginning, if you are around males at all, they can often tip you off up to 6 weeks before by increased interest. Not wild interest but a bit more sniffing of her than usual. I’ve had bitches who get very slap happy in their working on the run up to seasons, not really got their mind on working, but others would work right up to the day! (But by the same token I’ve had bitches who will start working happily the day the season finishes but others who always finish up with a broody 60 days!) You often find bitches will start urinating more just before or during the season, in effect they are scent marking, a sort of, “Hi boys, I’m here!) Add to those symptoms, the vulva swells, usually a few days before the season begins. (Although very occasionally not until the season actually starts.)

OK, I know all that sounds a bit vague, all maybe’s, occasionally’s and sometimes, but such is the nature of ladies! What I’m saying is, look out for the subtle differences, particularly from around 6 months on. As soon as I start to get the feeling that the season is imminent I start on the “Toilet tissue test.” When a bitch is in season she starts losing a bloody discharge from her vulva. In the initial stages there is not a lot of discharge, but when sleeping it collects inside, to drain out when she stands. So shortly after first standing after sleeping I give her vulva a wipe with a toilet tissue. This makes it so much easier to find. But remember, it does take a minute or so to drain out, so don’t be in too much of a hurry to wipe her.

The season it’s self lasts for approximately 21 days, although on rare occasions it can drag on for 28 days. The bloody discharge normally builds up during the first week, usually becoming paler and more watery during the second week and at this point the discharge may stop, or might continue for the entire time. But don’t be fooled! Even if it does stop she is still in season and is actually reaching her peak! In fact, if you were mating her then it is the 12th to 14th day when they are usually at their most receptive. Don’t be surprised if she is rather quiet during her season. It is not always the case but some can be very subdued. They often drink heavily. (Natural really when you remember they are losing body fluids.) They also tend towards rather more urinating. It’s all perfectly natural and nothing to worry about.

During the season it’s safer to not take her out, and certainly NEVER off lead. If I do take mine out during the early part of the season I put them in the car and drive a way down the road to break the scent trail back to the house. I walk them on lead around a local industrial estate where I know there will be no other dogs. But I never take them out during the second week to the end of the season. In fact many bitches really don’t want to do much during that time so it’s no great hardship.
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I never took mine out when they were in season, no biggie at all. I’m hoping Freddie will give an indication if my only entire girl is coming into season. He checks all his girls several times a day. Boys! She has a juvenile vulva at the moment, with no real sign of it emerging significantly so I think we’ll be safe for a while. The vet assurés me it will emerge when she comes into season.
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I never took mine out when they were in season, no biggie at all. I’m hoping Freddie will give an indication if my only entire girl is coming into season. He checks all his girls several times a day. Boys! She has a juvenile vulva at the moment, with no real sign of it emerging significantly so I think we’ll be safe for a while. The vet assurés me it will emerge when she comes into season.
It's funny how people get squeamish talking about 'bits', a lot of people even squirm when I refer to the girls as bitches. But yep, the vulva can really swell, some more than others, Tau was like a baboon when she was in season.
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Pops vulva is an innie rather than an outie. I’ve never seen it before, nor had one of my vets. The downside is multiple UTIs and real issues with toilet training. It’s much better now but still not an outie. Thankfully I have Freddie to help keep it meticulously clean. It’s like a little button, sometime barely visible. Here it’s about as visible as it gets.
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That is odd, I've never seen anything like that before either!
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That is odd, I've never seen anything like that before either!
Apparently, it’s more common than we realise. It’s the first time I’ve actually heard a vet advising not to spay!
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It's not common, but not that uncommon. Usually it pops out during the first season, and then stays out.

It's always best to use the correct name for parts particularly when talking about medical matters, because it eliminates possible confusion. I remember at school, in the very first engineering lesson, our teacher said, "Right, we will get all the sniggering out of the way on this first lesson. This is a ******* file," (A ******* file is the correct name for a particularly rough file,) "And this is a ball joint." I've always remembered that lesson and since then have always endeavoured to use correct names.
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