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Old 21-05-2019, 12:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Day 5 with pup

Good morning
Iíve been looking at some of the info on here for a while and have found it all really useful and such a welcoming group of people.

We picked our black lab pup ĎBettyí up on Friday, so far I think she is doing great.

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated! The more help the better!

Feeding -
I am feeding her puppy kibble (same as breeder was giving) and Iím giving her 70g 4 x a day, 6am, 10am, 2pm and 6pm Iím soaking with warm water and she eats every bit.

Toileting-

We live in an upside down house so leaving the back door open to the garden is not an option for us as she canít yet manage the stairs down to the back door!

I am taking her outside at least once an hour, After food, sleep and play. This is going well, she does give a little cry to let me know she needs out but sometimes I misjudge this for something else and then she will pee on the carpet! We are not punishing just picking her up and taking outside. Started out with training pads but she bypassed these so I thought I might as well get rid and just do without.

Sleeping -
She sleeps in her crate in our bedroom,last night was the best thus far, she had her last wee outside at 10.30pm, into the crate and she went straight to sleep, we have cracked the crate crying by praising her as soon as she falls silent, this has improved each night and has only taken a after of minutes for her to settle. She woke me once for a wee last night at 4.40 am and then settled back into bed until 0600.

Playing - she loves her toys, I have two kids 6 and 10, as she gets excited when playing she does go to bite clothing, We are trying to distract her with other toys squeaks etc but sometimes this isnít effective so any tips would be great!

All in all a really positive first few days,

I need to make a start on getting her used to being on her own, again tips on this would be good, she follows me everywhere which is lovely but Would obviously be much easier if I could leave her in the playpen without her howling for a few minutes!

My only concern is her poops, she has maybe 3-5 per day, in the morning they are formed and will pick up without leaving a mess, as the day goes on they get runnier, (sorry) we have had the odd streak of blood too. I spoke to vet about this yesterday, she is not concerned if all else normal and stools return to normal this morning which they did.

Any tips would be gratefully received,

Thank you so much

Helen and Betty
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Old 21-05-2019, 12:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 21-05-2019, 03:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sounds like you are very sensible and doing all the right thing!

Don't fixate on the poos, although we all do! They are actually a good guide to health. But in the early days are often, (usually) a bit loose. Because at that age she is growing so fast she needs relatively large amounts of food in order to fuel growth. But the body has difficulties processing such large amounts of food, so some comes out the other end only partly processed. As she grows her ability to process the food increases and also as growth slows less food is needed to fuel the growth so rather more of the food is completely processed so the stools get more consistent.

As a suggestion, start heel training straight away in the garden. When she is running lose in the garden, simply call her too you, encourage her to walk beside you using the command "Heel" and praising her, and after 3 or 4 paces break off and praise her. Make it a game and she will soon learn. This will help you when you first start putting a lead on and going outside the gate.

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Old 21-05-2019, 05:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Right, now I have a bit of spare time.

Feeding-
4 meals to 12 weeks old then reduce to 3 until 6 months old then onto 2 meals per day. In the past it was usual to reduce to one meal a day at one year old, but today most people stick with 2 meals. It’s easier on the stomach. As to amounts, I’ve never weighed my pup’s food. I tend to work by eye.

Toileting-
I’ve never seen the point of puppy pads. Why train a pup to toilet at a particular place indoors when really your aim is for her to go outside? It all seems counterproductive to me. Watch her closely and you will soon get to know when she wants to go. Mistakes will happen, we have to accept that, but it’s amazing how dogs learn. When I take her out to toilet I use a command for it, in my case it's "Be Quick" in a happy voice.

Sleeping-
The important thing is to slowly move your “Getting up time” to where you want it to be. Nothing sudden, remember her bladder is only small at the moment so she needs to go out as soon as she wakes, but gradually stretch the time until you arrive at what you want.

Playing-
Games are great, but if you are not careful excitement can mount and this is where the hand biting and clothes grabbing starts. Although my pups have toys and love gentle hug of war, most of the games I play are centred around training. Make it fun, and teach useful things. I teach sit stays, (So useful when you want to clear the floor, or even to take photos!) Recalls, coming when called, walking to heel, and because my puppies are destined to be working gundogs a retrieve. Make them fun and keep the sessions short. A couple of minutes is all it takes, say 3 times a day, a total of less than 10 minutes per day, so not an onerous thing.

Separation-
Something to start as soon as possible. I start by simply going out of the front door, round the house to the back door. Dont make a big thing out of leaving. Just say, “Back soon love” in a happy voice and go. The next step is to leave my pup while I go on “Poo Patrol” walk around the garden picking up any poo. I have a corner shop, only a few hundred yards from my house so thats the next step. Then it’s stretched to a trip to ASDA for a big shop. So you see it’s all about gradually increasing the time away. Again when I return it’s all low key. Just a simple, “Hello sweetheart” and thats it. You should present to appearance of it being a non event, nothing important. I normally pop my pup into her crate when I go out so I know she cannot get up to mischief. But see below.

Crates-
I’m old, from the era before crates were invented and always considered them cruel! But after many years in dogs, one of my pups ate the kitchen floor. So something had to be done to preserve domestic harmony!! So that was my first experience of crates. I feed my pups in the crate, put toys in there and give treats in there so it becomes a nice to be. Just like children, dogs start to get a bit silly when tired, so half an hour’s rest in there during the afternoon, plus probably an hour in the evening does not only allow her to rest, but it also gives you a well earned break! She will soon get use to the idea and it becomes part of a routine. I always put the crate away when my pups get to around a year old, but find they still put themselves to bet in the evening. My crate lives in the kitchen, so it has the advantage of helping with separation training. They don’t have me available 24/7 so get use to being in another room.

Just a few thoughts for you, and if there is anything you are not sure about, just shout and we will try to answer.

Below is my Chloe learning to retrieve in the garden at 16 weeks old.

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Hi and Welcome to You and Betty 😀
John has given you excellent advice 😎
Just want to say that Betty is beautiful 😍

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Great name, I have a Betty too. Her proper name is Bluebird which got shortened to Blue, then morphed into BettyBlue (don’t go there)

Sounds like you doing brilliantly! I’m in a similar phase however, my latest pup is NOTHING like the others I’ve had when it comes to being clean in her crate. Poor mite has a UTI probably caused by a juvenile vulva which we’re aware of and hopefully will be able to manage until she has her first season. Her vulva should rectify itself then so my vet and several others has said.

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It's not something I've had with my bitches Nicola, but I have heard of it happening. But believe me, you have had the best possible advice. What Lynda doesn't know about reproduction is not worth knowing. And in case you don't know, she is on the Breed Council Health Sub Committee, and a lovely person to boot. Just thought I'd mention it if you had not met her before.
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It's not something I've had with my bitches Nicola, but I have heard of it happening. But believe me, you have had the best possible advice. What Lynda doesn't know about reproduction is not worth knowing. And in case you don't know, she is on the Breed Council Health Sub Committee, and a lovely person to boot. Just thought I'd mention it if you had not met her before.
Thank you John, I certainly know her name. Iím hoping Iíll be able to bring Pops over to the UK to show if things go well here. Felicity is very keen that I do so. Pops was my pick but also her pick too. She removed all the identification and left it for me to choose. I picked ďRedĒ whoíd been her pick all along. Itís just frustrating for me and probably uncomfortable for Pops too and slowing out progress with toilet training.
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Felicity knows her. We were all talking together at Crufts a few years back. Lynda occasionally phones me if something new on the health front crops up. Particularly eyes, because she knows I will take it up with Prof. Peter Bedford the next time he comes to us, then I'll get back to her with the answer. The Labrador grapevine stretches far and wide!
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Hi and Welcome to You and Betty 😀
John has given you excellent advice 😎
Just want to say that Betty is beautiful 😍

Chel and Juice xx 🐾🐾
Thanks Chel and Juice 🙂 xx
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