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Old 27-02-2019, 09:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello everyone, After years of being around Labs (my mother used to breed and show back in 60's & 70's - Pacton yield labs in Worcestershire) and then a few wilderness years where I owned other breeds, I came back to labs and decided that I need never look at other breeds. For me there are only four types of dog I could own...Black, yellow, dog, bitch (sorry choc & red breeders I only have eyes for two colours - although I might be eventually won over with a silver, but not convinced yet). We are just about to embark on our search for our fourth lab. As our last was the beautiful & incorrigible Perry -- a yellow bitch (From Gloria at Amberside in Wales), I suppose we are due to have a black boy (who will probably be called's a cider-making thing, cider makers have a black lab called Scrumpy!) but my heart is hankering for another yellow, so I guess watch this space.

But right now we are still on the searching section for our next bundle of naughtiness, so we will be happy to be directed to any litters of black / yellow. We live in Devon and would prefer not to travel more than 100 miles or so. We tend to like the older working types and I love a broad / handsome face on my boys.
A little about me. Now in my 50's living on our cider farm in Devon with husband and 2 grown children. Run a farm shop and make cider so all four of us home all day. Used to breed still got 8 of the oldies and disabled lurking around ...affectionately referred to as "The fat old bags". Somehow we have also acquired some alpacs and some mini ponies. Enough for now. Looking forward to seeing some of the threads and if I'm feeling brave I might even make some comments. Thanks for letting me join in. is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
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Old 27-02-2019, 11:27 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hello Alison, I don’t know what you know about modern health testing, so I’ll assume nothing, because things have developed in recent times.

Hips first. The KC in their wisdom have changed from Breed Mean Score to Breed Median Score, which appears as a stroke of a pen to have improved scores over night! So although the median is now 9 total, (left and right hip added together,) I would not rule out a pup where a parent scored up to 12, provided both sides were reasonably equal, (within a point or so)

Elbows. The rule use to be to not breed from an elbow score of greater than one, but the recommendation now is to only breed from dogs scoring zero, which I think is sensible.

Eyes. There should be a current clear eye certificate.

DNA tests. There are so many DNA tests these days, many for conditions so rare that they can safely be left as diagnostic tools for vets, but there are a few which I would want to see carried out. One is the test for PRA, (Progressive Retinal Atrophy.) Because PRA tends to be late forming, possibly 6 to 8 years old, the visual BVA test is often too late and the dogs concerned do not develop cataracts until way after the pups are born, where with a DNA test we know the status before mating so can completely avoid this disease. CNM (Centronuclear Myopathy) is another worthwhile test, as is EIC (Exercise Induced Collapse) These are probably the most important tests, and speaking personally, I would not entertain the thoughts of a pup where at least one of the parents had not been tested clear for all of these. Two other tests which are desirable, but probably (to me) not quite so important are HNPK (Hereditary Nasal Parakeratosis) and SD2 (Skeletal Dwarfism)

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Old 28-02-2019, 12:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi and welcome, from me and my 2 black Labs, Lucan nearly 10 and 2yr old Ash, also residents of Devon.

Have you found the Champdogs site yet? That may be a good place to start or contact the Kennel Club for a list of local breeders.
Mandy, Lucan & Ash (Black Labs)
Bracken, Gypsy, Arnie, Rosco, Prince & Duke, gone but never forgotten.
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