Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject: Agilty v FlyballH
Hi all!
Marley loves flyball but due to various resons we left the club he was doing flyball at and know train with a friend of mine and hes started the beginners agility course with her. The daft mutt keeps hitting the first jump and my friend thinks this is because in flyball the jumps are lower and its about speed not accuracy, even though she teaches both she suggested we pick Flyball or agility for the time being as Mr Moo is being lazy!
Has anyone heard of anything similar before or does anyone successfully do both agility and flyball and how do you get them to get that first jump, i must add hes excellent after the first one its like his brain flick from flyball to agility and goes ok jump, tunnel, a frame, weeve, run off, poop in the hedge....oh sorry that was just todays class
I don't have much experience but Darcy is starting flyball in may and I'm not ruling out agility too. I really can't see why Marley shouldn't be able to adjust to both, sounds like he managed today ok after the first jump! I would've thought that he would love doing anything you are prepared to do with him. I know mine would!
Sorry but MAJOR boast time here! This is my big deaf bulldozer Jed doing a Fly-Agility deonstration in front of hundreds of people at the Welsh Festival of the Horse last year! A bit of agility with weaves, tunnel (have to throw a ball in for him to go through - luckily he can easily hold 2 in his mouth!), Agility height jumps, flyball run, then the agility in reverse (by which time he has given me one of the balls which I have to throw into the tunnel again!).
He started with flyball, loved it, but when we moved here there was no club nearby so he did agility instead. Quite enjoyed it but like your Marley tended to go through the jumps rather than over them... I had wondered whether it was because the flyball jumps look solid (well, are solid) whereas the agility ones are just spindly poles as far as he is concerned... When the flyball club started up and he made it obvious which was his first love, but as the club started doing demonstrations we brought fly-agility in to make it more interesting for the crowds.
Luna does agility regularly and we've done a wee bit of flyball training (BAA/EMDAC run something called clever dogs - agility course followed by flyball run) have never heard of any of the dogs that have had a problem with the first jump before and a lot of the dogs we know do both agility and flyball.... Luna has had no trouble switching between jumping differently heighted jumps either - she competes at BAA Medium height but we train at either Mini or Micro as I'm an over-protective Mummy!!!
Have you experimented with how close you place him to that first jump? I'd try starting him closer and further from it to see if that makes a difference.
Thankyou all, Jed looks like he is having sooo much fun!
Laura yes i'm gonna try him further back, i know when hes doing flyball he needs quite a run in so might try him like that for agility too. We have a flyball class this afternoon so will speak to the trainer cos he does really love them both
Thankyou all, Jed looks like he is having sooo much fun!
Laura yes i'm gonna try him further back, i know when hes doing flyball he needs quite a run in so might try him like that for agility too. We have a flyball class this afternoon so will speak to the trainer cos he does really love them both
Thankyou all, Jed looks like he is having sooo much fun!
Laura yes i'm gonna try him further back, i know when hes doing flyball he needs quite a run in so might try him like that for agility too. We have a flyball class this afternoon so will speak to the trainer cos he does really love them both
At our club all the dogs start with agility then can go on to do flyball if you want, I'm not aware that any of them have problems with the jumps as a result.
What sort of training do you do in agility? Do you do full courses all the time or do you do specific exercises with particular pieces of equipment? It might be worth doing some exercises using just one jump, then moving on to 2 jumps and courses. My last trainer (sadly no longer running classes) spent a lot of time with us just working on one jump to add value and make the dog want to jump it properly, working on our position, the dog's position and jumping style etc.
Also, if you're not actually competing, go back to the first jump and make him do it properly before you move on to the rest of the course so that he gets the message of what you really want from him.
Coco went through a stage where she persistently ducked under the first jump in a course, no matter how low we started it, we ended up putting filler poles lower down and crossed poles to make sure she didn't duck through.
Back to our first class of the year this lunchtime (last week was cancelled due to the strong winds) - she will no doubt do her best to show me up again
At the moment we're just really starting out so last week we did weeve poles, A frame and jumps, then this week was tyre, tunnels and jumps inc long jump and also working on his wait. I di make him start again if he misses it but he tends to just try and run straight through the first jump but then gets the rest perfectly, I def think its down to where hes starting from, i need to move him further back and let him have a decent run in
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