Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: Breeding
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I have just mated my male Lab. Sam, and female Lab. Blossom for the first time. Sam is a lovely Golden colour and Blossom a very pale yellow. Blossom came from a mixed colour litter, black,pale yellow, golden and one I can only describe as white! Blossoms mother is black and my dog, the father was pale yellow. Sam came form a all golden litter. Ok thats the background ,the question is what colour do you think the puppies will be in Blossoms litter? It really does not matter I am just curious.
Why did you mate them? Are they LOF? Are they health checked? BTW labs are yellow, black or liver/chocolate (sable/jaune, noir ou marron/chocolat) jamais GOLDEN!
Why did you mate them? Are they LOF? Are they health checked? BTW labs are yellow, black or liver/chocolate (sable/jaune, noir ou marron/chocolat) jamais GOLDEN!
Hi Maddie,
we mated them because we have a waiting list for their puppies.
Yes they have both been health checked.
I only used the term 'golden' because to me that is his colour! It may not be the correct description but I didn't think i need to use the correct jargon on this friendly fourm. I also wanted to make the point that 'yellow ' has various shades as I am sure you are aware.
The colour of the puppies is not important to me or to the people who want them. It was just a question, which, by the way you failed to offer an opinion!
Colour shade inheritence within the colours of black, yellow and chocolate is an area where little solid research has taken place.
Folks always seem to want to know, certainly in chocolate, that they will produce 'dark chocolate' as it is considered 'the preferable norm'. Its impossible to say. the limited research shows that generally - generally - mate two chocolates or two yellows and the pups will fall roughly between the two shades of the parents, no darker than the darkest parent, no lighter than the lightest parent, but that is only a VERY rough guide.
There are recessives which come into play for sure, because of course, you could, say, have a yellow, who carried chocolate, and just because that dog is yellow, doesn't mean he would carry a whishy washy light shade of chocolate, the dog who gave him his chocolate gene could of been and passed on the darkest shade of chocolate EVER!
So ditto your pups. Sounds like you could have a bit of a mixed bag coming with every sahde from dark yellow to almost white. Chances are most will sit somewhere roughly between the two parents own colour shades.
Di
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Colour shade inheritence within the colours of black, yellow and chocolate is an area where little solid research has taken place.
Folks always seem to want to know, certainly in chocolate, that they will produce 'dark chocolate' as it is considered 'the preferable norm'. Its impossible to say. the limited research shows that generally - generally - mate two chocolates or two yellows and the pups will fall roughly between the two shades of the parents, no darker than the darkest parent, no lighter than the lightest parent, but that is only a VERY rough guide.
There are recessives which come into play for sure, because of course, you could, say, have a yellow, who carried chocolate, and just because that dog is yellow, doesn't mean he would carry a whishy washy light shade of chocolate, the dog who gave him his chocolate gene could of been and passed on the darkest shade of chocolate EVER!
So ditto your pups. Sounds like you could have a bit of a mixed bag coming with every sahde from dark yellow to almost white. Chances are most will sit somewhere roughly between the two parents own colour shades.
Hi Di,
thank you very much for your reply, it was most helpfull. I did think more or less the same just wanted other opinions. Without the 3rd degree!!
Thanks again will keep you posted as to what we get.
Di
Welcome to you and your labs! I have heard the different shades of yellow being 'described' just as you did by some very well respected members of the Labrador world - how on earth can you describe a shade of yellow without being descriptive? I knew what you were getting at! Oh and by the way my recent litter of 9 pups were 2 black and 7 yellow with the yellows all being 'cream'.
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