Scubabe
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: Doggy Geneology |
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Question about doggy geneology programs... which ones are the best?
What kinda stuff can you put in them? EG I know you can put in colour, health test results, sex, DOB, DOD (if applicable)... but what else goes in there?
I guess I'm asking why I'd use a geneology program rather than just build an Access Database of my own?
Also, where do you get all your data from - can you apply to the Kennel Club for pedigrees of dogs that you don't own?
Thanks in advance
Ness
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Alyson69
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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A lot of breeders use Breeders Assistant. The website is www.tenset.co.uk. The prices start at £99.
The kennel club will only give out information of dogs that you have the registration number for. There are a good number of sites that have extensive databases of labradors. Sue51 & JohnW are very knowledgeable and have helped me many times in the past.
Good luck. By the way searching for pedigrees can become very addictive!
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Topseyt
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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I'd love to know the answer to this.
I wish the KC would set up some kind of online database, useable for a small fee and allowing owners to trace their dog's ancestry back more easily. Just KC reg. names with colour, date of birth/death if known would be sufficient. No need to give details of owners or their descendants.
As for computer software, I have heard there is one called Breedmate available, and I will work on getting hubby to buy it for me for my next birthday . I have listed Charlie's pedigree on an Excel spreadsheet, but can see it getting too cumbersome soon.
Helen.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Alyson69 wrote: | | A lot of breeders use Breeders Assistant. The website is www.tenset.co.uk. The prices start at £99 |
This what I have started using tonight...............and did a big boo boo but it really is very easy to use..........once you remember to save the database 
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Scubabe
Loving country life


Joined: Oct 17, 2006 Posts: 2213
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Alyson69 wrote: | | The kennel club will only give out information of dogs that you have the registration number for. |
Alyson, any idea where you'd get that registration number from? I haven't gone and dug out Ozzie's pedigree paperwork to check, but I am pretty sure that I don't have the reg nos for his ancestors named on his pedigree... just names and titles where they've earnt them.
Thanks for the info!
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Scubabe
Loving country life


Joined: Oct 17, 2006 Posts: 2213
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Topseyt wrote: | | I wish the KC would set up some kind of online database, useable for a small fee and allowing owners to trace their dog's ancestry back more easily. Just KC reg. names with colour, date of birth/death if known would be sufficient. No need to give details of owners or their descendants. |
Ooooh Helen, now *that* would be a fabulous idea!!! Exactly what I'd be looking for
Ness
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_Mary_
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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I started tracing CJ`s back after Sue told me she`d found loads of his ancestors, I got Breedmate, just been looking for it though and i have a horrible feeling I lost it when my old machine crashed
I had loads of dogs on there as well!!, Sue gave me several links of places to go and check out names of dogs I had, think I ended up with the better part of a thousand and didn`t actually finish looking 
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sue51
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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I use Breedmate - www.breedmate.com - recommended by JohnW.
I did consider 'developing' something myself, but to be honest, for what I paid for it, it really isn't worth the hassle.
It can produces ancestry charts at the touch of a button - produce offspring lists, calculate inbreeding co-efficients, produce 3 to 5 generation pedigrees with various different info (or you can 'design' your own style of pedigree) - abd can produce up to 10 gen pedigrees for research purposes
Re: the info it accommodates - everything from Dogs KC and Call names to different breeds, hip scores, elbow scores, colours, show results, owner and breeder info - it can identify ancestry at the touch of a button, and identify shared ancestry between one or more dogs - very handy little product
I would imagine the other products offer similar facilities - but whatever you use - I think it is safe to say that the development effort has already been put in and for less than £100 you can take advantage of it
I have got over 9,000 records in mine now and have yet to encounter any major problems that haven;t been caused by human error (i.e. mine )
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