Diana
A right Breeder


Joined: May 30, 2006 Posts: 9812
No.of Labs: 5+ Lab Names: Rusty (RIP my Gus) Dylan, Deeds, Mallie, Jade & Shiney! Location: West Sussex
78047 LabPounds
Items

Status: Offline Medals: 1 (View more...)
|
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject: Info: Optigen Testing - An Explanation and Overview |
   |
|
The BVA/KC eye testing scheme has been around for about 25 years or so now. It has been tweeked and finetuned and moved about but the general idea of it has remained the same. That if a dog is examined by an expert for the eye conditions which are common to labradors, and is clear (or 'unaffected' as it is sometimes described) then one can mate in safety to another dog, also carrying a current clear eye certificate and know you are doing the best possible by the puppies produced for future good eye health.
However eyebrows were raised when two dogs with clear eye certificates were mated, a puppy from that was tested at 2, 3 or more years of age, and FAILED his own eye certificate. How can that be? Well, the answer is simple and that is that both his parents although clear themselves were genetically CARRIERS of the eye problem he failed on and so, when put, perfectly ethically together, were always going to produce a proportion of pups affected with the most nasty of all eye problems, Late Onset PRA or GPRA as it is better known.
So work was started on a DNA test which would show not only if the parents were affected or unaffected with GPRA but ALSO, importantly, the result the paper BVA/KC eye test itself couldn't see, if they were Carriers.
After many years of waiting we finally have a test, run by the company 'Optigen' in the United States, to exactly as above, give the GENETIC eye status of any dog before breeding from it.
Results will return as your dog being either: Clear, Carrier or Affected.
This test is not to rule any dog out of the genepool, but to give us a clearer idea of the playing field and to be able to make breeding decisions accordingly.
The various breeding combinations using Optigen results are:
Clear x Clear = 100% Clear offspring
Clear x Carrier = 50% Clear 50% Carrier offspring
Carrier x Carrier = 25% Clear 25% Affected 50% Carrier Offspring
Clear x Affected = 100% Carrier offspring
So you can see that when Optigen tested, even a AFFECTED dog could be mated to a clear dog and never produce a single puppy who will be affected by GPRA.
Indeed because you can Optigen test from a very young age, literally from 6/7 weeks of age, if you undertake a Carrier x Clear mating, and don't wish to keep a Carrier puppy, you can Optigen test the best two or three pups (at a reduced rate for this what is called 'litter testing') and keep only a clear puppy. The Carrier pups will never develop the problem, of that you can be CERTAIN, and so can be sold as pets comfortably.
Testing is by way of a blood test at your vets, and booking a test online at the Optigen website (www.optigen.com). Sending the blood from your vets to Optigen by way of airmail post and paying for the test by credit card when booking. It is not complicated and not daunting. It also costs around £100-£150 per dog to test and this is done only once in a dogs life. A small drop in the ocean for the 'value' of the results to that breeder and the genepool as a whole.
You hear SO many reasons for not Optigen testing. The main reason really being that breeders are scared of what could be the result. Years and years of clear eye certificates or worse still simply an opinion that they have had 'no eye problems' can lull breeders into a false sense of security.
There has been around a 35% return on Optigen tests finding that dogs tested from the UK are infact Carriers. This is a high percentage. I am entirely practical that the majority testing are those who consider there *might just* be a problem so therefore are being proved right. But many lines where people didn't for a second think there was any problem there are finding, infact there are.
There are no clear LINES only individual clear dogs. And they are only proven as clear if they are Optigen tested. A dog can clear (like one of my own several years ago) 7, 8, even 9 eye certificates in his life and sire hundreds of puppies without anyone realising he is a Carrier. Then just one Carrier bitch mated with him can mean several young dogs from that litter devestating their families by going blind at a very young age.
"Where does health testing end?" Some breeders will counter.... "You need to breed for the WHOLE Labrador NOT just eyes". And I agree, but with such a simple and reasonably priced test avaliable to give a 100% genetic certainty, not just a 'stab in the dark' result that really in the scheme of things hip and elbow scoring do in comparison, the puppies produced by us and the owners that buy them deserve it.
Diana Stevens
Jan 2007.
|
____________ ´...exactly which part of ´WOOF´ do you not understand???..."
Di |
| Back to top |
|
|
|
 |
Diana
A right Breeder


Joined: May 30, 2006 Posts: 9812
No.of Labs: 5+ Lab Names: Rusty (RIP my Gus) Dylan, Deeds, Mallie, Jade & Shiney! Location: West Sussex
78047 LabPounds
Items

Status: Offline Medals: 1 (View more...)
|
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:46 pm Post subject: |
     |
|
Just to balance the 'Puppy buyer' piece I wrote, is there any chance this could become a sticky on the Breeding section, aimed more at breeders, even if you want to take it down at some point because a better overview comes along...?
Di
|
____________ ´...exactly which part of ´WOOF´ do you not understand???..."
Di |
| Back to top |
|
|
The following members of LF thanked Diana for this posting
|
|
|
|
 |
Winsleywood
puppy walker


Joined: Sep 15, 2005 Posts: 932
No.of Labs: 5+ Lab Names: Buster, Barney, Chloe, Willow & Charlie Location: Essex
3867 LabPounds
Items

Status: Offline Medals: None
|
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:48 pm Post subject: |
     |
|
Excellent post Di - I agree totally. Fingers crossed KC start to publish results soon as well.
|
____________ Alison
Willow & Charlie |
| Back to top |
|
|
The following members of LF thanked Winsleywood for this posting
|
|
|
|
 |
sheens
Fudgeys Mum


Joined: Feb 08, 2006 Posts: 13676
No.of Labs: 1 Lab Names: Fudge aka Boldmam Zafira 21/06/05 Location: Herts
34447 LabPounds
Items

Status: Offline Medals: 1 (View more...)
|
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:50 pm Post subject: |
     |
|
Excellent post again D i
|
____________ Love Sheena & Fudgey
Fudge´s Album!
 |
| Back to top |
|
|
The following members of LF thanked sheens for this posting
|
|
|
|
 |
Diana
A right Breeder


Joined: May 30, 2006 Posts: 9812
No.of Labs: 5+ Lab Names: Rusty (RIP my Gus) Dylan, Deeds, Mallie, Jade & Shiney! Location: West Sussex
78047 LabPounds
Items

Status: Offline Medals: 1 (View more...)
|
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: |
     |
|
Thank you whoever 'stickied' it I shall shut up now, I promise But anyone do ask anything about the test, the reasons for thinking it is a positive thing or any such thing.
Having been around for approx. 4 years it will take a while to become commonplace, especially when the result is for definate, and you can't go blaming a poor result on puppy buyers allowing their pups to jump in and out of the car boot or overexercising (wicked grin, as some do for hips) or some such thing
Di
|
____________ ´...exactly which part of ´WOOF´ do you not understand???..."
Di |
| Back to top |
|
|
The following members of LF thanked Diana for this posting
|
|
|
|
 |
Izzy_Molly
lead trained


Joined: Jan 18, 2007 Posts: 3153
No.of Labs: 2 Lab Names: Molly, Izzy & another interest!!
10701 LabPounds
Items

Status: Offline Medals: None
|
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject: |
     |
|
Well written again Di, thanks
XXX
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
The following members of LF thanked Izzy_Molly for this posting
|
|
|
|
 |
Happysmum
puppy love


Joined: Jan 09, 2007 Posts: 869
No.of Labs: 1 Lab Names: Happy! (Cookie Crumble Delightful) 11/03/07 Location: Surrey
5037 LabPounds
Items

Status: Offline Medals: None
|
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject: |
     |
|
Really interesting, its such a shame more breeders dont take note of stuff like this, money means very little when peace of mind is at stake.
Thanks Di
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
The following members of LF thanked Happysmum for this posting
|
|
|
|
 |
Labradawg
puppy walker

 | | | | | | | |