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_Jac_ Subscriber 05/08/2012 Offline
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Is Koli teething? This can put them right off food for a while when gums are sore.

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Luckily I've never has a problem with Lottie, she is highly food motivated!

When I got my first Dane he was a nightmare & I was at my wits end when his breeder sent me the article below. I toughened up and followed it's advice, took a few days but in the end Zeus ate. He was never a greedy dog, but he ate as much as he needed and was a happy boy.

Although it was written with Danes in mind, I think it covers most breeds & may help:


'By Lawrence Morgan-Evans, Great Dane Breeder.

There is nothing worse than a poor feeder, nothing more calculated to send the sanest of dog lovers round the twist, they are frustrating and worrying not to mention wasteful. The tale of the problem feeder is a well told one, and most breeders have heard it a hundred times, even if you have not had it poured down the phone to you before, I am sure it will ring a few bells!

The puppy is quite normal, a happy bouncing little soul that eats quite well during the first weeks (after the initial new home blues) then at around 16 weeks, usually when he is cutting his second teeth, he goes off his food-doesn't want his milk, thinks his usual diet is YUK! The owners are worried, "after all, this is going to be a Great Dane". "If he doesn't eat enough he won't grow" and so they change his food to their idea of a more tempting dish. "Perhaps he didn't like the old stuff" and "I wouldn't like to eat the same old thing every day".

Now for a day or two the new food is wonderful and he eats it as if there is no tomorrow, then he turns his nose up at it - Menu No.2 hits the dust and something else must be tried - "It worked last time", "He must be a canine Gourmet". Menu No.3 however, only lasts one feed and Menu No.4 is hardly ever sniffed at. By now almost every waking moment is taken up with the poor dogs dietry intake and feeding times are a nightmare of "Will he/Won't he". They sprinkle cheese, gravy, suet over the bowl, hand feed him, scatter it on the floor because sometimes "He cleans up the mess". But nothing pleases him and all the time he seems to get thinner.

Well, now you have a problem - it can be cured, but it would have been easier not to have got there in the first place. The thing to remember is that dogs are just like us, sometimes they are starving hungry and other times they are just not interested, perhaps when they are teething, or when it is very hot. Bitches when they are 5 or 6 weeks after a season, dogs when the bitch down the road is more "interesting" than usual. Also some are greedier than others by nature, and some are genetically designed not to be roly-poly fat during their growing period or young adult-hood. Nothing you do will make a dog with a small appetite turn into a mobile dustbin.

Remembering these things, it is essential that when the dog has an "off" day. Do not push him, he may not eat well for a few days, perhaps only half or less of his usual intake, but sooner than you think he will eat a normal amount and perhaps even ask for more. He may have periods of "off" days all through his growing period and longer, and these are the times that if you "tempt" and "push" him to eat more than he wants you create a mental feeding block that starts by being fussy and ends up by totally baulking at any food whatsoever. You can, in fact, so worry a young dog that the sight of a feeding bowl is enough to make him tremble. It is also interesting, and no surprise, to note that 9 out of 10 problem feeders are owned by people who want to Show their dog - and here lies the clue. The more important it is for the dog to look right (i.e. show ring sleek) the more likely they are to be worried when the dog is finicky and slowly develop a problem as described above.

Find out what the dogs parents were like when they were young, if the sire (now a beautiful rounded show dog) was a skinny tin-ribs type when he was a teenager you may be bashing your head against a brick wall to get weight on his tin-ribs son/daughter. Don't worry about him, he will get there in the end. What ever you might think he won't starve himself to death.

Now to the dog who is already a problem feeder. Perhaps there are other "cures" but this is the one I know that does work. I have used it myself and advised others too and if you really want to, you can cure them.

To start with, you must be feeding a well balanced and palatable food -even hungry dogs will not eat sour food or stale stuff that has been hanging around for days (in and out of the fridge). If you don't have another dog that is a gannet you must be prepared to throw food away sometimes. Have set feeding times and stick to them. Prepare half of his usual food in a clean bowl push it a little to one side of the bowl so that the bottom is visible (he can see there's not much there) put it down for him and don't watch him, get on with the washing up or something. Give him about 5 minutes or until he goes away from the bowl and then take it away completely, out of sight. Do not offer him any food until the next scheduled feeding time (incidentally some dog’s will only feed once a day even as 5 month puppies). Harden your heart and don't give him anything, no matter how starving he looks, or how longingly he eyes your dinner or how "I'm sure he'll eat it now" you feel. At the next feeding time do exactly the same. Half of his meal freshly prepared, clean bowl, etc. Five minutes, NO MORE, even if he looks like coming to eat it as you take it away.

Now for some dogs this treatment works in 2 days, in others it can take nearly a week. It is much harder on you than it is on the dog, but it will work because he will eventually realise that you mean business and he will get really hungry. When he finishes his half ration on two consecutive occasions you can steadily give him more but never go back to leaving food down or tempting or hand feeding. He will get back to square one faster than you can say "Pedigree Chum". It does work, I promise you it works more by your own attitude to the dogs feeding habits that the whims of his appetite. I will tell you the following to illustrate that.

Years ago I was showing a promising young puppy bitch that I always felt could do with being a bit fatter! She never had a big appetite and I simply couldn't bear seeing her thin or missing meals so I did all the things I have mentioned earlier in this article, and ended up not just hand feeding her but force feeding her. Yes, I am not a bit proud of it, it was dreadful and I was in tears over her many times. This went on until she got her Championship at about 2 1/2 years old (a long time to stuff food down a dog). I told her on the way back from the show that she needn't eat now, it didn't matter if she looked like a hat-rack she need never go to a show again (It just shows you how up-tight I was about her). Anyway, that night and from then on she was given the "five minutes and no more" treatment. It worked like magic. No, of course she did not turn into a gannet over-night, but she ate her meals at the proper times with no coaxing. She seemed to know that there was no tension anymore, she even got to the stage where I had to diet her to reduce her waistline. She is an old retired lady now but I will never forget the lesson I learned and I would NEVER do it again.

Problem feeders are made not born. The more you worry the worse they get. If you have never known the frustration of a poor feeder you are very lucky indeed.

Happy meal times!'


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-Angela- Subscriber 23/12/2012 Offline
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_Jules_ wrote:
-Angela- wrote:
I admit I will sit and hold her bowl and occasionally feed her with a teaspoon when she doesn't otherwise want to eat, because that's the kind of person I am Laughing


Laughing Laughing If it helps, you're not the only one who's done that, Angela. Embarassed Laughing In fact Twoee is going through a funny stage at the moment and often the only way she will eat her brekkie, is if I sit with her on the sofa and hold her bowl. We haven't got as far as using the teaspoon with her yet....but now I've said that...... Rolling Eyes Laughing Laughing


Smile I have found myself sat in a dog bed with Daisy, while I hold her bowl Laughing I hold the bowl for the others at times too - Mr Moo included due to a throat problem, though he has no problem whatsoever eating! As long as they're eating, I'm happy Smile

Sorry to the OP - hope all is ok and that your boy is eating happily again. I sometimes find pretending to have a quick "nom" of what is in the bowl can get them wanting to eat too Smile


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_Jules_ Subscriber 25/06/2012 Offline
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-Angela- wrote:
I sometimes find pretending to have a quick "nom" of what is in the bowl can get them wanting to eat too Smile


Laughing Laughing Been there, done that too. Embarassed Laughing Laughing Laughing


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The breeder was feeding him Field and Trial Puppy and we took a bag away with us and kept Koli on that but then when he stopped eating it we tried something different.

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do you take his collar off when you feed him! I have found that putting a spoon of natural yoghurt in the food makes my fussy Xara eat! also putting the food down and ignoring her!

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Well Max was Mr FUSSY he was at the point of only fish at my mums house and RC mixed with some thing here we tried a few foods but kept going back to RC only one he would eat but never has ate all at once so I tried him on Simpsons and well I was shocked he eats it all up straight away Surprised this is a dog that never eats his whole bowl of food loves it and it is well priced as well Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:59 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

Koli ate his food from my hand this morning - he seems fine doing that!

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