Did all of your information come from the OP's Post Sue? if so I must have missed something.
However It was just my reading of the situation given the question asked.
Predominantly from their posts yes - apart from the Charge for KC registration.
That came from me being nosy when I saw Helen's thread I put part of the text she posted into Google and hey presto came up with a litter of Black Labrador puppies for sale with a picture of mum and dad which I knew I had seen somewhere before
The boy whose colour they don't even know would have been literally just a year old when he sired the pups - so there is no way on this earth he could have been health-tested.
sadiejp wrote:
We brought our golden lab puppy born on 16-12-10 Jackson early last year. After getting out the papers for them both I am unsure on the parents of Jackson. It states parents to be Foulridge Golden Fella (sire) and Lucy Locket (dam)
sadiejp wrote:
Yes I have never breeded before and yes we now have a litter of Pups who believe me are being cared for and loved by a lot more people than most "know it all breeders" pups would ever get.
The staggering part about it all is that the husband is seemingly ensconsed in the vetinary profession and had 'experts' out to check on the bitch several times during her pregnancy, yet no-one ever mentioned health testing
Sadly, so many people think that 'health-checked' means 'health-tested' - I health-test my dogs before breeding - I get my pups "health-checked" before leaving - there is a HUGE difference
fair comment Sue,
I would have expected the RAVC to have mentioned health tests per-se rather than just checking the dogs health, The Army do tend to be fairly thorough.That said I always thought of it more as a training centre.
I do wonder though, if this was an accidental tie what the options were, and was the OP aware of them?
I would have expected the RAVC to have mentioned health tests per-se rather than just checking the dogs health,
Are you serious? There must be a countless number of vets who have no clue whatsoever on breed spesific health tests, let alone "the must tests" prior to breeding!
The responsibility is always solely the breeder's - his/her lack of knowledge is never an excuse!
I'm with Helen here. Vets are renowned for not knowing!! I had to explain to my vet about the optigen test and explain how the blood needed to be taken and treated. Try doing that in French!
I'm with Helen here. Vets are renowned for not knowing!! I had to explain to my vet about the optigen test and explain how the blood needed to be taken and treated. Try doing that in French!
Same here Nic - thankfully in English though as it took a few attempts
Personally, I wouldn't expect a vet to have breed specific health-test knowledge when you consider how many species they cover and how many breeds there are
BUT - I really do think they shoulld be made aware that some breeds do require health-tests and have access to an online resource where they can quickly and easily find out what those health-tests are.
There is an Assured Breeder PDF online which outlines the basic requirements under the scheme - it's not ideal, but it would be a good starting point
I hope the puppy buying public are astute enough to walk away from this litter. Talk about the blind leading the blind, how on earth is that 'breeder' going to give advice and support to new owners when they appear so clueless themselves.
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Having had battles with one of my vets regarding hip scores and dna testing - I can only confirm that "some vets" (read that to mean a high proportion probably) are really NOT in the know regarding health tests - as Sue says maybe not to expect them to know breed specific testing BUT... what I would hope for from a vet is for them to point people in the right direction so the person can open their eyes. They are the professionals and should know how to help people to get it right.
I have to say, though, one of the vets I am registered with (I know...I should only be registered with one - but I am very fussy about which vet my animals see and for which condition! ) has asked me to take part in talks in educating other breeders about what tests are required and using me as an example. As yet the talk for breeding hasnt happened, I need to chase him up on it and get my head together as to what needs to be said!
information is knowledge and being ignorant isnt an excuse.
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I hope the puppy buying public are astute enough to walk away from this litter. Talk about the blind leading the blind, how on earth is that 'breeder' going to give advice and support to new owners when they appear so clueless themselves.
Unfortunately Lynda, people probably will buy from them (although £450 is high for an unregistered pup, even moreso in the current climate) - but it's shocking sometimes to realise just how clueless people are when it comes to dogs
"I won't be showing the dog so it doesn't need to be registered". So naive, ignorant, badly informed Joe Public deosn't see it as a problem that pups aren't registered - after all, it is only a piece of paper...
OK, technically this is true, KC registration isn't the be all and end all of dog ownership but failure to register often indicates failings elsewhere too and sadly this message doesn't seem to be getting out to Joe Public.
Most vets need educating as much as Joe Public does. I accept that they can't be an expert in all breeds but you would hope that vets would at least understand the need for hip-scoring if nothing else.
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I put part of the text she posted into Google and hey presto came up with a litter of Black Labrador puppies for sale with a picture of mum and dad which I knew I had seen somewhere before 
) has asked me to take part in talks in educating other breeders about what tests are required and using me as an example. As yet the talk for breeding hasnt happened, I need to chase him up on it and get my head together as to what needs to be said!
