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Matt1983 Subscriber 05/01/2013 Offline
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Well we've managed 3 and a bit meals today, the fourth was nothing more than a few biscuits but I'm really pleased with her progress. Hopefully tomorrow will bring more good fortune, starting with breakfast!

Thanks for the advice I've received. I dare say that as a first time owner I'll have many more questions along the way, we've got a couple of books but I don't think they can compete with people who have first hand experience, so thank you.

Matt

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Mel1970 Subscriber 27/09/2012 Offline
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Hi Matt and welcome to LF Very Happy

Hopefully she will start eating a bit more, but as others have suggested, try a change if it doesn't work Smile I was just curious, is there a reason why you don't want to feed her meat?


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Matt1983 Subscriber 05/01/2013 Offline
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I am under the impression that biscuits are a far better diet than meat, of course this may be wrong and I guess it's also a case of each to their own. I have considered giving her meat when she is older but I want to hold off for as long as I can. We also have lots of other animals where we live, cats, chickens, peacocks, rabbits - I'd like to get her used to these before she gets a taste for meat!

We've done 2 meals already today, I took her for a short 30 min walk and dished up another 40g of food which she looked at for a few minutes and then decided to eat it, the whole lot at that!

Matt

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_Jules_ Subscriber 25/06/2012 Offline
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:52 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postTweet This Post

Matt1983 wrote:
I am under the impression that biscuits are a far better diet than meat,


That's because the dried food maufacturers have brain washed the dog feeding industry, from the vets to the pet shops. There is an awful lot of money to be made from dog food, so they all produce research to back up their feeds. This is why there are so many different feeds, yet they all claim theirs is the best. Because he who pays the piper, calls the tune Wink.

Just think about how dogs evolved, they didn't evolve to eat dried out biscuits did they. Wild dogs eat meat and bones and our own pet dogs are not that far removed from their wild ancestors Wink .

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We also have lots of other animals where we live, cats, chickens, peacocks, rabbits - I'd like to get her used to these before she gets a taste for meat!


I really wouldn't worry about that myth either. I've mostly raw fed all my dogs and we have had free range/house rabbits, Guinea Pigs, Cats, Hamsters, etc, at the same time. The dogs have all been clever enough to know the difference between another family member and dinner Cool .

Glad to hear she is eating better now. I hope it continues Very Happy.


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JohnW Subscriber 07/12/2013 Offline
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That's because the dried food maufacturers have brain washed the dog feeding industry


Thats 100% right! Dont forget there was no dried complete foods in the wild, also no puppy foods! Pups ate the same as the adults, and a large percentage of that was meat. Dogs are omnivores and opportunist feeders. They eat what they find when they find it.

Also a Jules says, it's normal to feed 4 meals to 12 weeks of age because the pup's stomach is simply too small to hold enough food to feed the fast growth. Drop to 3 meals at around 12 weeks old and to 2 meals at around 6 months.

Regards, John

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Gem1966 Subscriber 04/06/2012 Offline
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Hello!
I am a first time puppy owner and like you my pup came with Eukanuba. I had heard a few negative things about Eukanuba or loopynuba as my trainer called it, but my breeders had such good results with it that I wanted to stick with the tried and tested method. George used to pick at his food (fed 4 times a day) so we put yoghurt on it to temp him as advised by the breeder, but we had to stop that as I think I was giving him too much and it was making his poos a bit too soft. We used to soak his biscuits in warm water to soften them and temp him, which worked quite well for a while.

After our vet and trainer gave us funny looks when I said he was on Eukanuba, I started to do my homework on foods as I wasn't completely happy with his poo and coat. Saying that my vet recommended royal cannin which had more additives than Eukanuba! Confused He had loads of soft poo and was getting dandruff. So I asked around and looked far more closely at ingredients, and after we tried him on some fish4dogs treats that he would go nuts for we moved him onto their food and I have never looked back.

Don't be afraid of changing her food, but you'll need to try it over a few weeks before you can tell if agrees with her. If you do change her food make sure you change it gradually over 1-2 weeks so you don't upset her tum.

Hope you find a food your happier with. My husband is interested in trying a BARF diet in the future but it will have to wait till we have a bigger freezer!


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ooo if you are otherwise happy with the eukanuba you could try drizzling a bit of fish oil over the top! That might help bring her round to it.

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Matt1983 Subscriber 05/01/2013 Offline
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:24 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

Well I'm happy to report that we demolished 4 meals yesterday with the bowl licked clean! I've been taking her for a couple of short walks each day which I'm sure is helping to build up an appetite. I've increased the 2 meals she's had today so far to 50g and no problems as yet, she's due another feed shortly so fingers crossed.

I'm yet to see any worms in her poo since I gave her the first tablet though, should I be concerned by this at all?

She's such a clever little bugger, it's taken her no time at all to work out how to get treats out of her kong ball, will have to conjure up a new game!

Matt

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Mel1970 Subscriber 27/09/2012 Offline
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The best thing to put into the standard kong is something wet. That could be her biscuits soaked and then stuffed in, or banana, peanut butter, just about anything, and even better if it is frozen first.

I put frozen meatballs in and they also get 1 pack of Naturediet between them a day as part of their daily food. This is stuffed into kongs and frozen. Keeps them busy for a good 20 mins to half an hour (bliss Laughing )


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