Whether or not you planned it, did you enjoy the first experience with Coco? I presume that there were several things you learnt that you didn't expect? I think there are a lot of people, on this forum as well, that breed for a specific colour, or certainly have in the past. I don't think that makes them bad or good breeders, its just their choice and as long as the rest of it is done well I can't see the problem (theres only ever going to be a black puppy emerging from my girl so I'm just jealous of the multi colour excitement )
Obviously this is fairly long term stuff for you. Are you thinking of choosing a puppy with the specific desire to breed from her? The only problem I envisage with that is that there is still always going to be the risk that you have a girl who ends up with above breed average hip or elbow scores. What would be your plan then? As you would have a bitch who at a year old may be no good to you for what you wanted her for but equally could be difficult to move on I'm not sure what other people who specifically get a bitch to breed from do in these circumstances or whether there are any people on here who don't have a secondary purpose for that bitch, whether it be working, showing or family pet.
I actually choose my dog because i liked the breeder, i actually wanted a yellow bitch from working lines. I really struggled to find a breeder who's ethics i actually agreed with!. Lots of of the time it was just little things that put me off. I was lonely without a dog, i wanted one ASAP (not usually a wise move, i know).
I rang and chatted to loads (this was before i properly discovered LF) and i actually almost bought and unregistered dog because i at least liked the breeder both parents were health tested, but one was an unregistered working dog.
I choose Jake breeder basically because they owned losts of dogs in Jakes 5 generation pedigree i met mum, dad, grandmother, G grandmother and G grandfather and an auntie plus many many more!! (talk about lab overload it was my type of home ) they also had piccys on their living room wall of the GG grand parents that had gone to the bridge a year or so earlier. I met them all, played in the garden with them and loved them all. I also figured that any breeder that also had many many elderly dogs still in their pack obviously wasnt a puppy farmer (sadly in my search i found a fair few) which was another massive box ticked for me. I have no problem at all with a breeder making a few bob from there dog, after all the hard work that goes into planning and raising a litter if money is made than good on them!!
I think if your going to go into this you need your eyes wide open, i know its not something i would do in a million years. Some of the breeders storys on here of when things have gone awfully wrong is enough for me to leave these things to people that know what they are doing.
By the sounds of things everything has gone fairly straight forwards with your current litter and i can see why you would want to do it again.
I have NO breeding experience, but having bought my dog as a puppy from what I would now deem to be a 'dodgy' breeder I would just like to add that if I was looking to buy another puppy, I would firstly look at what the dam and sire had done. Personally, I would want a working dog so would expect both parents to be competing or working regularly. If looking for a pet dog, I would still be looking at parents that did something whether it's working, showing, agility etc which would make me thing the breeder gives a damn about the dog/bitch and doesn't just have them as a puppy production unit!
I think more and more people are getting wise to the fact that buying puppies from non registered breeders who have a pet dog and breed because it seems to be a good idea at the time is not always the best option - having done it myself, would NEVER do it again.
By the sounds of things everything has gone fairly straight forwards with your current litter and i can see why you would want to do it again.
This is a very valid point actually - I was blessed with my first two litters as my bitch was a natural mother - and our intervention was limited to a drive to the vets because we thought there may be more pups after a long break - by the time we got to the vets, number 7 had already arrived (and it does actually mention in the Book of the Bitch that sometimes a car journey can kick start things again !!!).
Unfortunately - two such flawless whelpings didn't prepare me in the slightest for her daughter - who was doing everything in her power NOT to deliver the pups - and then initially didn't want to know them (although I think I would be the same if I gave birth to 7 x 21oz babies (human equivalent weight!!!) )
Thankfully - by number 6 - she was willing to deliver them herself, but it was a very difficult time for all concerned, extremely upsetting for the bitch (and us) - she will never have another litter because there is NO WAY any dog is coming within inches of her in season or otherwise - she has made that VERY CLEAR
And even that experience I am fully away is mild compared to what some others have gone through
Over here in Ireland there are A LOT of black labs. Yellow and Chocolate are colours that people prefer. Before our pups were even born someone had one reserved and she was hoping for a Chocolate. When I told her they were all black she was a bit disappointed but is still taking one.
And to be honest only 2 people have rang about them. Neither turned up to look at them. But 2 are going to family and 1 that friend. And 1 is staying with me. so we still have 4 to find homes for. So in my experience black are very hard to sell. When we went to buy Marley he was the only pup left out of a litter of 9. And they had just turned 8 weeks. Of course that was a while ago now so I do not know how Yellows are selling. And I do know that Coco's breeder sells her pups quite fast.
Of course if I did happen to breed and I did get black pups I would not abandon them!
I just thought some people breed certain colours. And I know it is not just colour I would be breeding for.
Everything went pretty great with Coco's first litter. But of course I know things can go wrong with the next dog etc.
I will definitely find a mentor to help me because I know when Coco was in labour I was in a bad state. I was actually sick with nerves. Not that anything went wrong but I was just expecting it too..And that just made me sick! But it was all good and she did a great job delivering 10 pups! She started at 6am and they were all out by 2pm. So it did not take her long at all!
Oh and I would hope to do something with the Dam work or show wise. I just have to find the right one! But it will not be for a while. Gotta save first
Whether or not you planned it, did you enjoy the first experience with Coco? I presume that there were several things you learnt that you didn't expect? I think there are a lot of people, on this forum as well, that breed for a specific colour, or certainly have in the past. I don't think that makes them bad or good breeders, its just their choice and as long as the rest of it is done well I can't see the problem (theres only ever going to be a black puppy emerging from my girl so I'm just jealous of the multi colour excitement )
Obviously this is fairly long term stuff for you. Are you thinking of choosing a puppy with the specific desire to breed from her? The only problem I envisage with that is that there is still always going to be the risk that you have a girl who ends up with above breed average hip or elbow scores. What would be your plan then? As you would have a bitch who at a year old may be no good to you for what you wanted her for but equally could be difficult to move on I'm not sure what other people who specifically get a bitch to breed from do in these circumstances or whether there are any people on here who don't have a secondary purpose for that bitch, whether it be working, showing or family pet.
I did it enjoy it very much. Only thing I did not enjoy was my mother! Oh my gosh what a pain she is! She was doing everything wrong and we had some big arguments. So next time I breed I will be living on my own!
Yes I will hope to choose a pup to breed her some day. But of course her hip score etc could turn out bad. If that happened I would still keep her as a pet =) BUT before I choose a pup I will ask to see both parents results for hips, eyes and elbows and if they are not near perfect then I will find a different breeder until I do find something good. At least then there is a chance the pup will have good results.
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I'm not sure what other people who specifically get a bitch to breed from do in these circumstances or whether there are any people on here who don't have a secondary purpose for that bitch, whether it be working, showing or family pet.
both parents were health tested, but one was an unregistered working dog.
i met mum, dad, grandmother, G grandmother and G grandfather and an auntie plus many many more!! (talk about lab overload 
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