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Mel1970 Subscriber 27/09/2012 Offline
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:51 pm    Post subject:  Teaching "drop" command Reply with quote Scroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

Hi

Does anyone have any tips on how I can teach Bella how to drop/give me the toy once she has brought it back to me?

I initially tried treats, which sort of worked, but I was told this wasn't a good idea and that I should pull the toy until she let's go and as soon as she let's go say "drop".

Does anyone have any other suggestions, or if I should go back to treats as at the moment it turns into a tug of war Rolling Eyes

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Mambosmum Subscriber 25/02/2013 Offline
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I would also be interested to read the answer to that!!

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first why do you want her to drop it rather than give to your hand? If you have no working aspirations then drop is okay
Using treats to get her to drop the item is the easiest way and is really affective with pups. So I'd go back to what you were doing


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Must admit that was my thought Sam, if I pull, Skittle will NEVER give it up. I usually give a treat!!(just wondered if I WAS doing it wrong Embarassed)

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ChasandZoe Subscriber 19/08/2012 Offline
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:27 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

I have no advice at all but wanted to share what I've been doing with Zoe since I've had her (2 weeks on Wed Laughing )

When she brings me her toy, I tell her she's a good girl, leave her with it in her mouth whilst I praise her and then take it gently. She starts to pull on it but I keep my hand absolutely still and say "drop it" and when she finally let's go, I make 'happy' and give her lots of praise, etc.

This has REALLY helped when she's got something she shouldn't have - kid's stuff, mostly Laughing - I ask her to sit, rather than chase her and then I grab hold gently and do what I said above. She's starting to learn really quickly and she knows the difference between tug of war play and when I want something back.

Maybe you could try that? I know it's tempting to pull back but perhaps if you held your hand as steady as you can, she'll realise it's not a game?

Good luck Smile

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Mel1970 Subscriber 27/09/2012 Offline
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Thanks for the advice. Ideally I would like her to give it to me in my hand (I don't have any plans to "work" her, it is just my preference). She is now 24 weeks and it is one area that both of us are confused with Confused

I will try not pulling when I take the toy and see if I can get her to "drop" into my hand instead.

As for when she get's hold of something she shouldn't, she ignores all my commands. I have made a point of not chasing her and getting the item off her when she is calm ... unfortunately, this was too late for my glasses Rolling Eyes

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Mel1970 wrote:
... unfortunately, this was too late for my glasses Rolling Eyes


Oh god - bloody pups, eh? Laughing Wink Zoe goes deaf on me sometimes, especially when it comes to the stairs Rolling Eyes

She goes deaf when it comes to books, too. Well, one in particular - "Housebreaking Your Dog in 7 Days"... Is that irony? Or is she trying to tell me something? Laughing


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ChasandZoe wrote:
She goes deaf when it comes to books, too. Well, one in particular - "Housebreaking Your Dog in 7 Days"... Is that irony? Or is she trying to tell me something? Laughing


Good to know I'm not the only one then Wink Laughing

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This is a good video on you tube but it is based on clicker training
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oFO9Z0oHBA

It starts off teaching a "hold" and then "hold" and "release" then retrieve, hold and release. It seems odd to teach a dog to hold on to something that you want them to give up but if you watch the video it makes sense really. You could probably teach it this way without a clicker but a clicker is ideal for marking the desired behaviour.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:09 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

we used give and as soon as she drops it either into our hand or on the floor she always got a treat. That way it made her have an incentive to give it back because she got a good reward. We also didnt chase her we walked slowly in direction in a low firm voice with oomph behind it we went "Indi give" and we showed her we had a good treat and soon she learnt giving meant treat which meant plus for her. Eventually we weaned her off the treats by making them smaller and then now its very sparodic. If we cant get it back as she is running round with it she will get a treat to make it worth her while. However most of the time she gives it now and doesnt expect anything other than a really big and high pitched "Good Girl!Good Give!" Meant to say follow the giving with the voice praise a "good Girl/Boy. Good give/drop!" Indi took a while. We had the chasing and it turned it into a game. Now she knows we wont chase her we walk very slowly but making our body wide and big along with the Indi give. Normally she will give 3/4 metres away. We always give the verbal first then repeat the verbal command with a slow walk towards her, show the treat. Make the treat something unusal something they dont normally have so its really worth while. We used cocktail sausages or cheese. We kept these to hand and now have a little pots by the door just in case but we rarely need them!!! Its a long slow process. Dont expect miracles over night it will take a while to teach them. But usually a good treat with verbal commands followed by lots of praise and rewards worked for Indi. x

EDIT - We also never pulled the toy out the mouth she had to give it to us. We where told never to tug or play tug of war games (by our trainer) whilst she was a pup as if you let go ur showing weakness and they have a dominance over you! Pup will give it back eventually take it slowly and use lots of positive praise and rewards. We gave for any little thing she gave back. We started in the home by getting her to give toys she had whilst next to you, then eventually took it outside to retrieving balls. Start small then eventually they`ll learn.

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