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charlie88 Subscriber 26/08/2012 Offline
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Thanks for your help i dont plan do bread honey but its nice to no a bit more about her genes. Iv been reading your website as well and have got some great info. X
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PaddyOsc Subscriber 11/09/2012 Offline
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If you do do some bread and Honey, can i have 2 slices.
Gary and Toby.

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charlie88 Subscriber 26/08/2012 Offline
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Lol ill post u some x
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richardm19 Subscriber 10/09/2012 Offline
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just out of curiosity what causes rainbow litters or the silver labs?
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charlie88 Subscriber 26/08/2012 Offline
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what are rainbow litters?
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richardm19 Subscriber 10/09/2012 Offline
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someone on a different forum used rainbow litter to describe a litter of labs containing all colours

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Diana Subscriber 23/07/2013 Offline
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I won't even go there on silver, Richard. Its not a real colour produced, just a crazy marketing ploy crossing Weimamaras with labradors OR very light shade of chocolate which they are closely crossing to make it even lighter in SOME in the litter (although others will be perfectly normal shades of chocolate....) So put that out your mind Wink Its not real. A smokescreen to charge buckets of money.

Rainbow litters, with all three colours in occur, just as earlier in the thread, when the right genetic set up is in both parents.

Basically two blacks BOTH of whom carry chocolate and yellow are mated and so the ability for all three colours to be produced occurs AND then ontop of that nature grabs her chance and produces all three. Its nothing special, and usually a complete accident with both owners not even realising both parents carried both colours.

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Fiona_M Subscriber 29/12/2012 Offline
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Or in the case of my current litter; one parent is chocolate and one parent is black, but both carry yellow. Not ideal, but as I know what they both threw in terms of conformation I chanced it (daddy seems to throw a disproportionately high number of chocs!), and got 4 chocolates, 1 black and 1 yellow with no pigment.

That yellow gene can hang around for many generations, as can the choc one. My boy carries yellow, but it's at least 5 generations since there was a sniff of yellow in his pedigree Wink



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sue51 Subscriber 23/07/2012 Offline
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Basically, if you haven't colour DNA tested either parent, you could have black, black and cbocolate, black and yellow or black, chocolate and yellow.

The dam will definitely carry yellow, the chocolate might - my chocolate girl is from two chocolate parents but carries yellow.

If the chocolate carries yellow, the pups will be black and yellow

If the black carries chocolate, the pups will be black and chocolate - unless of course the chocolate also carries yellow, in which case you will have a rainbow litter including the risk of liver pigmented yellows.

All puppies will carry chocolate and some will carry yellow.

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Diana wrote:
Basically two blacks BOTH of whom carry chocolate and yellow are mated and so the ability for all three colours to be produced occurs AND then ontop of that nature grabs her chance and produces all three. Its nothing special, and usually a complete accident with both owners not even realising both parents carried both colours.


Pretty much any combination - two yellows or two chocolates excluded can produce rainbow litters - if I mated Bronte to a yellow with black pigment and carrying chocolate - we would all three colours - same if she was mated to a black carrying chocolate and yellow Wink

The risk of producing No Black Pigment yellows arising when both parents are, or carry both chocolate and yellow. It's interesting that black being the dominant gene - even if both parents are black, if they carry yellow and chocolate, you can produce Yellows with no black pigment - yet if you mate yellow with black pigment to chocolate carrying yellow - the pigmentation of any yellow pups should be fine.

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