Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 6:12 pm Post subject: Judging Lists & how to get on them
A different thread has had me thinking. With so many people coming into the breed hopefully it generates future aspiring judges.
How many people know about the Breed Council Judging Lists? What is the criteria? How do you apply?
Criteria starts with the Kennel Club Stud Book Banding. Labrador are Band E and this means that you can judge up to 5 classes without being on any list. Many societies prefer to take someone off of a judging list with many open shows being "C" List Judges.
The Breed Council holds a centralised list starting with the C List and goes up to the A list which is Championship Show Judges.
The criteria for the C List is:-
~ To have shown an active interest in the breed
~ To have attened a Labrador Retriever novice judging seminar or to have judged (hands on) 30 or more Labrador Retrievers.
To apply you have to approach your local Breed Club in writing requesting inclusion on the C List. The breed club will review your application/judging CV and then when approved will be referred to the Breed Council for inclusion on the list, which is updated 1 May and 1 Nov each year.
Once you start judging it is crucial you keep details of all judging appointments, number of dogs entered and the number of dogs/classes actually judged on the day.
I think it is actually useful to start off by completing the breed council questionaire form as a working document that you can add to with each appointment. If you do it as you go along then once you reach the criteria for the next stage (B List) the form is already completed and can be sent off a local breed club secretary with a request for inclusion on the B list.
Beyond the B List a lot of other factors come into play such as varius seminars, stud book numbers, numbers of dogs judged and attending an Open Working Test or Field Trial.
Anyway - hope some of you may find this of use - if not now then in the future
Last edited by Winsleywood on Wed May 18, 2011 5:30 pm; edited 1 time in total
Thank you so much Alison for making that so clear..
I have done the 'Hands on Assessment' The breed specific seminar and have shown a HUGE interest in the breed but I want to wait quite a few years before i judge... If I ever do.
I showed horses before dogs and was asked to judge those..
I do appreciate movement and conformation but in my honest opinion.. i think it takes years to really know and understand movement. As a really good horse man told me... 'If it doesn't move right, it ain't made right'... But....... you need a good person to see that..
Some people just cannot see it! No matter how much they train....
Hayley
Edited because I can't spell......or i hit the wrong key..
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 6:15 am Post subject: Re: Judging Lists
Winsleywood wrote:
The criteria for the C List is:-
~ To have shown an active interest in the breed
~ To have attened a Labrador Retriever novice judging seminar or to have judged (hands on) 30 or more Labrador Retrievers.
Is that all? Oooooh, I have done so much more than that, but not quite enough for thr B List... better get my letter and judging CV sent off then!
...Thanks Alison, timely post as just finally applying for the B list (after judging since 1999).
My goodness how things have changed with this allowance of a breed seminar INSTEAD of judging 30 Labradors to make the C list as it used to be. As you know, You used to have to actually of judged the dogs before clubs would take you onto their lists. It could take two or three appointmenets before actually having your hands on that many with absentees and so on. Tricky!
Di
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...Thanks Alison, timely post as just finally applying for the B list (after judging since 1999).
My goodness how things have changed with this allowance of a breed seminar INSTEAD of judging 30 Labradors to make the C list as it used to be. As you know, You used to have to actually of judged the dogs before clubs would take you onto their lists. It could take two or three appointmenets before actually having your hands on that many with absentees and so on. Tricky!
Di
Some clubs still apply the hands on seminar and having judged 30 Labradors rule before they will accept members onto their 'C' list.
I've actually been on the LRC Wales 'C' list for over two years
I've also grinded my judging teeth at a fair few companion shows - which of course count for nothing on judging lists, despite having judged over 400 dogs of many different breeds - but what the hell - it was great fun - and the quality of dogs entered never ceased to amaze me - with many top breeders taking their youngsters out for experience
Also worth mentioning the stewarding book - which I wasn't aware of - and have had to backtrack to get all my stewarding appointments signed off
Some clubs still apply the hands on seminar and having judged 30 Labradors rule before they will accept members onto their 'C' list.
No club operates separate C lists anymore. The criteria for the C list is ONLY that laid down by the Breed Council as it is the ONLY C list and has been for the last few years. Prior to that various clubs had different criteria.
The criteria for the Breed Council C list remain as originally quoted in my O/P as I took it direct from Breed Council Website. All clubs operate to the criteria's as specified for each list.
....and thank goodness for that eh Alison! As a sec of a canine society I bet you remember trying to gather every seperate breed clubs judging lists to put forward judges.... NIGHTMARE! Thank god for single breed council lists I'm sure!
Di
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The boys!
Read: Wylanbriar Dog Blog on the website: Updated! 1st February 12´!
No club operates separate C lists anymore. The criteria for the C list is ONLY that laid down by the Breed Council as it is the ONLY C list and has been for the last few years. Prior to that various clubs had different criteria.
The criteria for the Breed Council C list remain as originally quoted in my O/P as I took it direct from Breed Council Website. All clubs operate to the criteria's as specified for each list.
Alison - I'm not going to go into it on a public forum, so will PM you - but there are clubs that DO have different rules.
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I'll have to keep an eye out for a novice judging seminar 
i think it takes years to really know and understand movement. As a really good horse man told me... 'If it doesn't move right, it ain't made right'... But....... you need a good person to see that..
