Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 7:46 pm Post subject: trainer too rough?????
Hi all,
need advice and other reactions please.
Buddie is 5 months and today we returned to training after 3 weeks off because of bank holidays.
It was a bad day for us as my hubbie began his training for kidney dialysis so although my sister came and took Buddie out at lunchtime, it was the longest he had been on his own.
So off we went to training and he was a bit hyper. He is growing up now and definatley has begun to get a mind of his own. He is still good and as well behaved as many of the older dogs, if not better than some.
Anyway when we did the 'stay' and walk to the end of the hall to recall, my hubbie only got half way down before 'Buddie' ran after him. Mike took him back and he did it agin.
This is when the trainer grabbed his collar lifted him up by it and carried him back and shoved him in a sit. Well i was bloody incensed, to be honest it took all my strength to not walk straight out.
Now i know i need to be firm, and maybe i am too soft at times, but this seemed so cruel. Poor Buddie had a wierd day as it was.
So all my LF friends am i over reacting, do i need to be this firm??
Sorry to waffle xx
OMG! That's just wrong. I wouldn't be going back to that class ever again.
I once took Baxter to a class when he was a pup and the woman grabbed his collar and tried pushing him to the floor. she got a mouthful off of me and we walked out, never ever to return.
I take Hattie to Essex Dog Training and they have given me faith again, they make a point of saying that dogs shouldnt ever be trained with force etc.
Buddie wont learn by being treated like that. At the end of the day he's still a baby - 5 months old is nothing. He may have tried to run to your OH before being called but your trying to teach him recall - today he got dragged back just because he went before he was told, at his age i'd be prasing him when he comes.
So, my answer would be you're definitely not overeacting!
Agree with above, I too laft a training class, not because the trainer was rough with Lola but she actually struck someones dog who had been playing up!
It took Lola ages to get sit and stay she really really wanted to come when I walked away. I had to do loads of sit, walk away and return for her to understand that I didn't want to do recall training every time I walked away
I think everyone has their methods. If mine are taking the mickey they get dragged back to where they started by the scruff of their neck (they don't wear collars) - maybe that makes me harsh, I don't know but the are happy dogs in mine and many other opinions. I suppose it is like children, some believe in smacking, some don't. If it does work for you I would def change class but I am not sure it was totally out of order...
I don`t think your over reacting either, Buddie wasn`t doing as he should but no way her should be picked up and carried by his collar, the damage she could have done to his neck doesn`t bear thinking about and as for forcing him into a sit, all she`s doing is scaring him into obedoence and thats not the way its done these days as we all know.
I wouldn`t be going back there again and if its not that woman who owns the training club I`d be sure to tell the owners why.
I wouldn't stand for that. If ours do anything wrong, they are taken back to where they should be without a treat but never punished. I have left a previous class for less.
I think everyone has their methods. If mine are taking the mickey they get dragged back to where they started by the scruff of their neck (they don't wear collars) - maybe that makes me harsh, I don't know but the are happy dogs in mine and many other opinions. I suppose it is like children, some believe in smacking, some don't. If it does work for you I would def change class but I am not sure it was totally out of order...
The thing is Celine, Buddie was`nt dragged he was lifted and carried by his collar, thats wrong wrong wrong surely?, the damage that could have been done to his neck by his weight being supported only from his collar?
A 5 month old Lab is no light weight as most of us know, plus how can you know that he was taking the mickey, he was probably trying to pre empt what he knew would be coming next in the recall.
yeah i have had a good think, and i going to call and cancel my membership.
It was a man who does the training thats how he managed to lift him off the floor and carry him by his collar!
I suppose some people are tougher than others and i am not saying thats wrong.
My dog is a family pet, he won't be a working dog or anything.
Of course i want him well behaved as well.
I think he was just worried his dad was going to leave him again as he hadn't seen him much today x
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That's just wrong. I wouldn't be going back to that class ever again.
