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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:42 pm    Post subject:  Pets at home training treats :O Reply with quote Scroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

Recently we started trainging classes with Lottie and were asked to bring training treats. We didnt know which was best so went for basic Pets at home traing treats. When we got to training the trainer kindly pointed out that lots of the ingredients were completely unsuitable for example they had crushed up animal bones and awfull. She said some of the ingredients can cause all sorts of serious problems for our beloved pooches so I have decided to steer well clear.
Just a word of advice Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:08 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

i will say i do use the training treats, and in moderation haven't had any problems.
I.d have thought crushed bone and offal (sp?) were actually good things to have in a food as represents a more natural diet but mayb thats just me.


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Ummm..... forgive me if I'm missing something, but what is wrong with a dog (or puppy for that matter) eating crushed up bones and offal? What do you think is in dog food?

I have no idea what the other ingredients are, but I certainly wouldn't be in the least bit worried about my puppy eating bones and offal - in fact I'd actively encourage it!

Are you talking about these?

Admittedly, I would probably not use those though, I'd probably just use some chicken or ham or cheese or hotdog sausage, and a handful of kibble, mix it all together in a treat pouch so that the kibble starts to smell and taste like the cheese or smoked ham or whatever, and then use that for puppy classes.

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Can definately recommend hotdog sliced up very thin.... I used it at Mojo's puppy classes yesterday and not only made Mojo pretty receptive, I was also immensely popular with all the other puppies there... a young Rhodesian Ridgeback became my new best friend pmsl!!!

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James Wellbeloved do very nice lamb, or fish, training treats - clean to handle and VERY popular with the dogs... but, a tad pricey...

Another alternative to hot-dog sausage.. (which can be a bit wet/sticky) good old Mattesson Sausage Ring - lots of woofy-appeal there!) but the best ever...? Liver, put on a baking sheet and dried in the oven, then chopped up into small pieces.... the woofs go crazeeee for it...!

P.S Agree with the other posts too... 'nowt wrong with crushed-up bone or offal treats for canines... (mayhaps the trainer is vegetarian and, understandably, doesn't want to touch any meat-based products..?)
Also understandably, dogs ENJOY eating meat...!!!

Q: how many wolves do you think you'll find grazing in a wheat field...?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:13 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

HHK wrote:

P.S Agree with the other posts too... 'nowt wrong with crushed-up bone or offal treats for canines... (mayhaps the trainer is vegetarian and, understandably, doesn't want to touch any meat-based products..?)
Also understandably, dogs ENJOY eating meat...!!!

Q: how many wolves do you think you'll find grazing in a wheat field...?

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Yes, but if you look at the link posted above, the ingredients are:

"Cereals, Meat and Animal Derivatives (Chicken Min.4%, Rabbit Min.4%), Vegetable Protein Extracts, Derivatives of Vegetable Origin, Vitamins. with Antioxidant EC Additives. Coloured and Preserved with EC Additives."

So the treats may only be 8% meat/derivative sanyway.

I'd not buy those particular ones. Cereal listed as the first ingredient, followed by "derivatives". I'd also wonder what they were coloured and preserved with and whether they contained BHA/BHT. Still waiting for Pets at Home to answer my email from months back asking whether their food contains BHA/BHT.

I give mine home made tuna cake, cut up as big/small as I like and the Barker & Barker liver treats - and plan to buy some of their new fish ones Smile


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... and as a P.S.

The "James Wellbeloved" fish treats ingredients stated are fresh Fish 98% & Parsley (Protein 85%, Oil 4%, Ash 7% - which is bone - and Fibre 0.2%)

And they also state they are made from fresh fish (freeze dried) and "...contain NO artificial colours, flavours or preservatives..."

I don't have any of the lamb treats at the moment, but feel sure they will match up to the fish treats above.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:29 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

My dogs eat crushed bone and offal as a matter of course....It's good for them Wink .

What I would be more concerned about is the colourings and preservatives. As Angela said, some of these could be BHA/BHT which are known Carcinogens, yet the EC still permit them to be added to animal feeds Rolling Eyes .

I'm with the others...Tiny chunks of cheese, chicken, or sausage go in my treat bag, along with some normal kibble, as this then makes the kibble smell fantastic too. I don't use Hotdogs though, as goodness only knows what they are made of Laughing .


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We are very fortunate. Our trainer cooks up huge trays of liver cake and sells bags for £1 at class. The woofs adore it and we don't have to cook the stinky stuff at home Very Happy The JWB treats are great but way too expensive to use at class for me.
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We use cheese and frankfurter sausage at training so no worries Smile
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