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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:04 pm    Post subject:  a natural present and release commands.... Reply with quote Scroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

I am thrilled with my little Nellies natural talent Razz

We're only doing a couple of retrieves a week but I haven't really taught her anything on that front yet, she naturally runs out,picks and returns and will happily wait until sent if I ask her (which i'm not doing much of at all).

But what has fascinated me is that not only is she a natural holder (hoorah no teaching 'hold' yet!) but she also instinctively sits to present Very Happy
Is this common for pups? Is it likely as she learns to love the game that dropping and not sitting will start to creep in?

Lastly, do you start as you mean to go on with pups and release commands? I am trying really hard to release her on 'Nellie' but for some reason my puppy voice kicks in and I keep saying 'Nellie go get it' Embarassed Laughing


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I read this thinking you meant release commands as in 'dead' or 'drop' and thought noooooooo! Please don't!!! Wink

But you mean 'release' commands as in 'sending'.... personally I start from day one with what I will use forever and a day. I tend to send for a mark on a dogs name so thats how I start with a little thrown seen retrieve for a baby... 'Back' can come later - for me.

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Very Happy oh yes I mean release as in send.

Right I will zip my lips and stick to just a 'Nellie'.


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I've found I automatically use "WAIT" and then "GO"... Laughing

I don't know if "GO" is an acceptable release command? Indy knows exactly what I mean when I say it...

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I don't know if "GO" is an acceptable release command? Indy knows exactly what I mean when I say it...


I think you can use what you like, but a whole phrase like 'nellie go get it' is a bit of a puppy puppy thing and would be Embarassed if ever used in company Laughing

The problem with 'go' is that other dogs may also go on the same release, not a huge problem I suppose unless you are working 2 or more.


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Heh, I can just imagine a fully grown, 2 year old gun dog being told "Go on Nellie Noo, go and get it for Mummy" Laughing Wink
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Milford_Cubicle wrote:
Heh, I can just imagine a fully grown, 2 year old gun dog being told "Go on Nellie Noo, go and get it for Mummy" Laughing Wink


Not quite as far fetched as you may think MC.

A friend of mine was running a dog in a Cocker Trial ( the sire of my boys Rocket and Jamie), a bird was shot, which Storm marked, and my friend was told to send her dog. She gave him the "Out" command, but being a Cocker, Storm decided there was something far more interesting in the opposite direction, so off he went. She called him back up, tried again, with the same result. The judge said to her, "One last chance, or you're on your way", so Frances said to Storm " Please darling, just for Mummy, Get Out", off he went, straight as an arrow, and picked the bird, much to the judges amusement!!

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" Please darling, just for Mummy, Get Out", off he went, straight as an arrow, and picked the bird, much to the judges amusement!!


Laughing Laughing love it!


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Diana wrote:
commands as in 'dead' or 'drop' and thought noooooooo! Please don't!!! ;-)Di


Embarassed Embarassed Oh that’s interesting ………… Why? I’ve been using “dead” for years, rather than turn it into a tug of war!

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Well, personally, only personally, I've never thought 'dead' releases anything. Its the hand pressure.... Or at least, if you DIDN'T say 'dead' are you saying (which I'm sure you aren't) that your dog won't release? Or if your dog was sat up with a bird in its mouth and without any movement towards it you said 'dead', it would open and drop the item?

Only personally, but from my experience people who worry about a dog 'holding on' tend to use a word to cover their slight embarassment at the dog holding on too long.... the word not really meaning anything to the dog, and the item actually being released for a force of the hand on the dogs jaw or an extra bit of pressure pulling the item and slightly twisting...?

You genuinely find it has a useful purpose? Only I;'ve seen on so many occasions that infact its a word dogs don't know from 'bananas' but humans use it as they are in the habit of doing so....

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