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Diana Subscriber 23/07/2013 Offline
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Yes sorry, the last paragraph of the post above mine. Sorry I don't know how to use the quote thing and didn't have time for my usual long winded 'cut and paste' thingy I do Wink

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Hi Diana,
Well I suppose it's more what people believe rather than what is considered the right way of training and then there is differences because Deer stalkers can't go blowing whistles and shouting when out with their dogs. Very Happy
Now I know that you do not subscribe to much of the 'old ways' of thinking but here are some of the things that I have been told in the last 12 months.

1. Brown dogs can not work
2. Bitches cannot work
3. Labs cannot be worked on fur and feather
4. Show lines must not be put across working dogs
5. Too much retrieving work will bore the dog and it will stop working for you. (Yeah right Mildred won't stop retrieving and its me who is getting bored).

Other problems are that the field trials system is both very similar and then again miles apart in training and what is expected of the dog from the tracking dog world.

I'm really having to sail a very rocky course to find enlightenment. Very Happy

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Becs Subscriber 07/07/2012 Offline
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I'm finding these posts about what happens in other countries, and Tobia's posts really interesting.

So far, my 'experiment' with Mouse is going better than I expected. I'm over-awed in how big the potential is to learn and am finding that the more I'm doing with her, the faster she is learning new stuff. And this is with only doing short sessions with her (I also have to work 37 hours a week and look after 4 other dogs, kids, husband, home etc)

I have absolutely no idea what she will be like at 6 months, 12 months, 18 months or whatever. She could be hideous/ sluggish/the most disobedient and dullest dog in the world! But at the present moment in timeI'm over the moon with her.

I'd love to hear more about people who have trained their pups in ways that may differ from 'the norm' in whatever areas.

Becs and The Gang

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I think that we all need to be honest with ourselves and when something goes wrong we look to our own training methods before we look accusingly at the doe eyed pup sat in front of us. Again as a deer tracker I have to sift through all the advice I'm given and then decide which way to go. I know that Mildred will never be the greatest tracker because I'm using her to practice what I've learnt on her and sometimes this can have a negative effect on her education if it is wrong.

A friend and fellow tracker said to me recently that our methods learnt from the Danes would not suit the UK dog owners. My reply was 'so what, if people weren't interested in at least looking at different training methods good or bad then they would share the fate of the Dinosaurs'! Laughing

It is not uncommon to look at a Danish Labrador’s pedigree and find that it has awards in tracking, field work, obedience work and show awards. Shocked Who says a 'jack of all trades is a master of none'?

I'm here to learn from everyone and to see if I can use some of their methods and incorporate them into the tracking scene. I think it might just work. Very Happy

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Tobias wrote:
I think that we all need to be honest with ourselves and when something goes wrong we look to our own training methods before we look accusingly at the doe eyed pup sat in front of us.


Absolutely agree. I also think that there are many, many ways to teach a dog something and it's good to have a tool kit of lots of ideas gathered so you can play around and see what suits the dog best (and what you feel best about using too). And try to learn as much by the things that go wrong as much as by the things that go right.

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