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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject:  How exhausting it can be... plus questions about training Reply with quote Scroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

...to be an 'apprentice gundog'!

First lesson today.

Isn't this just PRECIOUS! Laughing Laughing





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Laughing Laughing Laughing Awwwww bless
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awww what a wee shame!!!!!

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I was going to post about the class not being quite what I expected (not necessarily a bad thing)
but then I spotted this sad sight - it was the pillow that got me!! Laughing Laughing



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mmmm from the looks on that ickle doggies face i think you could be reported for cruelty Laughing Laughing Wink Wink


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Oh bless her, love the head on the pillow Laughing Laughing
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Awwww poor little girl!, love the pillow, CJ will do that to if I leave one on the sofa, he`ll even try and nick one from elsewhere if he can Laughing

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Ohhh...sweet!

Now....tell us all about your class and how it went?!

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I wish I could relax like that Rolling Eyes
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Becs wrote:
Ohhh...sweet!

Now....tell us all about your class and how it went?!

Becs and the Gang


..wee-eell......firstly it was in a park Surprised didn't see how they could be let off lead....and they weren't which was probably spot on for a first time with 7 unknown dogs. So actually not a problem at all. And it won't be there next time - it seems it was just so he could assess his group which was very wise of course!

I think I just had envisaged out in a field sort of thing, looking more like shoot terrain so it was a surprise.

He (Ray) was real old bloke, been at it for years and successful too at FT and Obedience. So I had the lugoles pinned back for the pearls of wisdom that I expected to flow from his lips Wink

It was rather different from all the reward based stuff we (Kaya and I) had been used to - he showed us (the group) how to be firm and make the dog understand it had done it wrong if it wasn't sitting when told, or staying for a short while. I saw a couple of the dogs flinch as he growled/shouted 'Grr bad dog' at them in quite a ferocious way.

It did get an instant result though. He said he doesn't hold with the old method of beating them into submission but that a dog sometimes needs firm handling ( he described scruffing) in order to know what is expected from them, and that a lot of people confuse their dogs by not being clear in their instructions, either by voice or body language.

So whilst it made sense in one way, I don't really want Kaya to be flinching if I shout at her when she doesn't immediately get it right...or have I got it wrong and really it won't bother her, just help her understand and be glad that I am in charge? I have used a kind of growl when she does something, or more usually is about to do something, she shouldn't and that is effective in getting the point across 99.9% of the time.

I'm very happy to start making my commands firmer when necessary, and if she wilfully disobeys I can see the point of scruffing...but where is the line between 'still learning' and 'wilfully disobeying'?

All opinions gratefully received Very Happy

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