Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:39 am Post subject: Need your kind assistance in translation/interpretation
Dear all,
Need your kind assistance in proper interpretation of what means “to face cover” for both retrievers and Spaniels in the quotation below from "SHOW GUNDOG WORKING CERTIFICATE” (http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/download/238/sgwc.pdf):
"(c) For a Retriever, that it hunted for, and found, dead or wounded game, faced cover, and retrieved tenderly.
(d) For a Spaniel, that it hunted, faced cover, produced game and retrieved tenderly."
I’m from Russia, labs are very popular here, however, we’re still developing our standards of retrievers work. That's why proper understanding of "facing cover" is quite important. All other is quite obvious.
My understanding is, that for retriever: the dog should hunt for and find dead or wounded game, face (i.e. search in) different kind of cover (grass, plants and etc.) while looking for dead or wounded game and then retrieve.
For Spaniels – they hunt for life game, while searching they should face (go in) any kind of cover (in the same meaning as for retrievers), flush game and retrieve after shooting.
Is this correct or close?
Another interpretation is that both retriever and spaniel should FLUSH life game from some kind of cover (in the meaning "shelter") where this this game has hidden.
Retrievers, generally in competition do not flush birds. That is left to other breeds - Spaniels and Hunt, Point & Retrieve breeds.
Face cover means, as you thought, hunt through any kind of obstacles, this may mean the harshest brambles or some long grass. Hunt through cover for either for dead game or some thing which has been shot, but, not dead - this is called a 'ruuner'. In which case the dog is expected to pickup the scent where the bird dropped or ground game was shot and follow the blood scent until the wounded animal is caught anf returned to handler.
In the shooting field, Retrievers also flush, as do a variety of dogs. A shoot local to me has a number of Patterdale terriers.
I hope this has helped you.
I think Sherry, (Blypark) has defined it about right. On a shoot retrievers often do anything needed, including flush game. But competitively a retriever would not. Some retrievers may be reluctant to go into brambles or Stinging Nettles, but this is an important part of the job of the working retriever, so it's important that it is tested under the "Show Gundog Working Certificate".
Many thanks for help. Frankly, I was quite confident in my interpretation, but wanted to double-check with people, who are not only native-speakers, but are aware of the subject as well.
Many thanks!
Ettinsmoor,
Thanks for your interest. I'm quite surprised that there are inquiries on field trial puppies from Russia.
If you don't mind, I'll answer to your private box (if there is such an option). This is not a secret, but as soon as this is my personal opinion, I would prefer not to publish it:)
Very pleased by your warm attitude.
Will come back with more questions.
Sadly Jill, As Julia is not subscribed I dont think she is able to send PM's, and is also limited to 5 posts.
Regards, John
Ooops... You're right. I would love to subscribe, and have tried to, but payment system doesn't accept credit cards issued in Russia (even by international bank)... This is quite common, unfortunately...
I'll see whether I could ask anybody from another country to pay for my subsciption, but meanwhile - many thanks again for your kind assistance.
Jill, I'll leave my e-mail at your web-site. If you're still interested, just drop me a test message.
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