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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:39 pm    Post subject:  Pros and Cons of someone else competing with my dogs. Reply with quote Scroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

Right 2009 is obviously going to be the year where I start thinking more about where I am going with my dogs Shocked .

I have been "musing again" about the pros and cons of someone else handling/competing with my dogs in either Working Tests or Field Trials. The dog numbers here are on the increase and I am getting older. I don't think I'm quite past it yet but we need to think about these things Wink .

Does anyone know how it actually works if someone else competes with your dog? I don't really mean say the dogs John Halstead works for people because he is a Professional and is obviously paid appropriately. I am talking further down the scale?


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ok... definetly not in the same scale... but... I would say it doesn't work... for me anyway... or my dogs. At Ians training day, Pasco legged it the entire length of the line of waiting dog/handlers from my Husband to me Sad Then again... he is just a baby.... maybe a better trained more mature dog it wouldn't matter!

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Oh Fiona I don't actually mean will they work for someone else. They will I quite often hand my dogs over to other people. It is more the logistics of how it all works if that makes sense.

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ahhhh.... *L*

But... thing is... if you put all that effort in to them....... don't you want to enjoy the glory???

A competition... would be the high of your training... as appose to all the lows of garden rearranging, sock stealing and vet bills! Wouldn't you want the high?


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But it may come down to me spreading myself very thinly between so many dogs that are ready to compete, so it actually ends up with none of them reaching there full potential!

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I'm with you..... as in... can you compete two dogs in one competition sort of style?

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The way things are going Fiona I might actually have four dogs to compete with at the same time!!!!!!!! Shocked

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Jill,

Its very straightforward in practical and clerical terms. You enter them under your name then just put 'handled by' in the 'handlers name' box and their address. You pick who is on the SAE for the running order - them or you, the sec will just chuck it in and post it so thats your decision. If you put two in one for each of you then she will happily send two Wink They will appear in the running order as 'owned and bred by Jill Parsons, handled by John Halstead JR'.... Wink

The hardest part is if you are there watching and a dog pulling to 'mum'. It would need someone with real patience to come to you and train day in day out as much as you would if you were competing with the dog.

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I don't know how it works with dogs Jill, but in the horsey world, lots of owners have their horses ridden in competition for them by other riders.

As long as handler/rider and owner agree on the way they like things done, and on their aim for each outing, ie. one for experience or one they should be aiming to win, then it seems to work very well for all concerned!

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Jill I have 4 I have in competition and it can work. You can run two dogs as you know in a test, so you can get round having to be at 4 different places with 4 different dogs! You sometimes get bumped out the draw with your second in a test if the entry is high enough .... (trialling of course is a different matter).

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