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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:09 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Scroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

The anti-field sports lobby irritate me so much - in my experience they're either out to fight some bizarre class war of their own invention and/or just totally deluded about animals in general.

They certainly know nothing about the law of unintended consequences, or what would happen if the hunting and shooting communities' husbandry of the countryside was lost. There are already that many filthy dirty, mangy foxes hanging about the countryside these days since the ban, that would have been desptached relatively humanely in days past. Over the moors where we sometimes ride, you see shocking specimens and absolutely no sign of any of the "animal rights" nuts doing anything about it.

I'm sure there's every propsect of the antis upping their activites in the coming months generally, not least because the hunting ban is so on its last legs. I read recently that the Countryside Alliance now has more members in Devon (the smallest county in the country) than the League Against Cruel Sports has nationally. So the hardcore are bound to start winding themselves up again.

Good for you and yours remaining good humoured about it. Of course the antis are entitled to their opinions, but they really are a shower of utter numpties!

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Enjoyed everyones comments and very strongly agree with Michael above.

" From what Di has said it sounds as if there was possibly a fine line being trodden in this case, or even being crossed. I am sure they do cross the line sometimes, and they need to be dealt with just as anyone else would be. "


We called the police to keep them posted. They actually are quite helpful round and abouts us as they realise the hunt kennels are a red alert area for extremeists - and these with us were FROM the hunt kennels so you simply never know what lengths they will go to.

Yes they were very knowledgeable Antis. They can only gather in groups of 8 maximum, so they had 8 maximum in their groups. They stuck completely to the footpaths only, it was just we had to cross the footpaths to get on with things so had to come into contact with them. They were well equipped with cameras and camera phones and took pictures of all of us and every step towards them as evidence should they need it.

These are canny hardened protestors who know about the injunctions word for word and do not break them.

The thing that most rattled me was something minor really. It was a group of entirely WOMEN screaming 'You've heard of shooting accidents, well I hope YOU become a f***** statistic from one.....'

To fathers of children and mothers of children, and CHILDREN!

Lunatics. Absolute loons.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:34 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

I've been reading this post with interest. But words fail me, I've never been in your situation Diana and hope I never will be. Why people cannot conduct themselves in responsible polite way to make their point is beyond me.

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I have to say I have yet to encounter anything like it out on a shoot, but I did get entangled with Hunt Protestors completely accidentally some years ago.

I was out doing Working Trials training with the Surrey Weald Working Trials Club (and this is nothing to do with shooting or hunting we were laying tracks with human scent). The Hunt came through with a very big group of protestors doing everything in there power to disrupt things and just happened to come into the fields where we were training.

The Hunt obviously went onto private land and the protestors couldn't follow so they turned there venom on us. I have no idea why we had just moved to the side to let the Hunt through and were watching things no more no less. Thank goodness the Hunt Stewards came back and rescued us and escorted us back to the Farm Yard. It was very intimidating indeed Shocked .


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The anti-field sports lobby irritate me so much - in my experience they're either out to fight some bizarre class war of their own invention and/or just totally deluded about animals in general.


absolutely agree with you

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Sorry to hear that Jill. But I guess thats my point, what gives anyone the right to intimidate to another person.

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While I never been on a shoot/out hunting, I am, on many occasion on the 'raw end' of MOP's (Members Of the Public) abuse by either a group or a single person. It is intimidating and sometimes scary but ONLY if you actually listen to what they say. I usually try to imagine myself somewhere completely different or I just smile so they think I'm a complete loon Laughing or I actually start to agree with them (that usually brings them up short) - 'Yes I am a b****, I quite agree with you.' 'Hmmmm yes I am sadistic' 'Yes I have power issues' - makes me laugh really....makes the day pass a lot quicker....

The thing is if you show them rattled/scared then they have the belief they have won. You/we are partaking in a sport/activity/hobby that has been around a lot longer than the anti's have I'm sure.

Linda - the animals you mention need our voices not the 'game' that is bred for a purpose/reason humanely.

Surely the deaths of children (and as I understand there has been another death of a toddler who was on the 'at risk register' this week Shocked ) and or the suffering of humans require more attention - this is what I don't understand is the anti's priorities!!!

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Jaspersmum wrote:
Surely the deaths of children (and as I understand there has been another death of a toddler who was on the 'at risk register' this week Shocked ) and or the suffering of humans require more attention - this is what I don't understand is the anti's priorities!!!
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But if everyone had the same priorities in life then we'd all be thinking of world peace and how to prevent people starving, and not worrying about fur-farming or free bus-passes for pensioners or a billion and one other things that matter deeply to particular groups of people. I admire people who have have a conviction about something to the degree that they are prepared to stand up and be counted (otherwise women would still not be allowed the vote!) although I hate mindless or intimidating campaigning.

I am intrigued what your job is Emma! It sounds like you have to take a lot of flack from the general public!

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[quote="Becs
But if everyone had the same priorities in life then we'd all be thinking of world peace and how to prevent people starving, and not worrying about fur-farming or free bus-passes for pensioners or a billion and one other things that matter deeply to particular groups of people. I admire people who have have a conviction about something to the degree that they are prepared to stand up and be counted (otherwise women would still not be allowed the vote!) although I hate mindless or intimidating campaigning.
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Becs - I quite agree with having convictions but about things that actually matter in life - or that can actually make a difference in this world.

I have pm'd you re my job I don't to offend anyone on LF


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