KC certificate doesn't have up to date eye test on

Waikie

I've just noticed that Lillie's KC breeder certificate has a 2004 date for her Dam's eye test, but I saw a late 2007 eye test certificate for the dam when I went to see the litter (and yes, it looked genuine and had the correct names etc on and they're a respected and established breeder so I've no reason so suspect foulplay).

Is there any reason why the dates wouldn't match up?

Thanks

(Just also noticed that her Sire's Optigen test result isn't on there but I saw that certificate too - do breeder's have to tell the KC of these tests themselves?)

Diana · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject:

Don't worry at all. I have been nibbling at this issue for a while myself because the KC are SO slow in updating their system - or something is going amiss somewhere along the line if it isn't the KC.

For example all mine have to date certificates but the last litter went out with the KC reg certificates showing mums eye certificate as being well over a year old, so invalid.

As long as you saw the up to date one with your own eyes, trust that. The process of the eye examiner sending the results to the KC and the KC updating the dogs record is working very slowly these days it seems and many many KC reg certificates do not match the eye certificates shown to buyers as being valid.

theres nothing dodgy I promise.
Di

Diana · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject:

Optigen results -:

If the sire was tested before May 2007 then yes the owner had to submit the results to the KC themselves and not everyone did for various reasons including not knowing the should.

After May 2007 all results went straight from Optigen to the KC for inclusion on registration documents so should be there ---- like the eye certificates ----- eventually Wink

Di

Waikie · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:24 pm Post subject:

See, I knew you'd know Di! Thanks for the info, I'll stop panicking now Very Happy

I do believe his Optigen test was prior to May 07 yes, so that explains that. Can't believe they've been so slow updating the dam's eye results though....that's pretty appalling!!!

Diana · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject:

Well you might find the one she had done before the current one was the 2004 one. If you aren't going to mate a bitch its perfectly acceptable not to test her until you want to mate her so she holds a clear certificate when she is mated. So she might of had one done and clear in 04' then they waited till mating her for your pups litter and thats the one slow to go through the system....

You don't have to test every year - its just most males hold a current one all the time because you never know when someone might require them for stud and you don't then want to dash about trying to find a testing session or get an appointment. Bitches who the owners know when they are going to mate them can go a year or two quite happily without one as long as one is obtained before mating and cleared. Do you see what I mean?

Di

Waikie · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject:

Ah yes, that makes sense actually. I know she had a litter in 2005 so I suspect you're right and she didn't have another litter until this year.

Thanks Di

sue51 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject:

As Di says - Hally had a gap of a couple of years between her first clear eye certificate and her next test when I finally decided to breed her - likewise this time I had a gap of about 15 months.

JohnW · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject:

I've got to say that in my opinion, if you breed a litter then you should keep the BVA eye test up from then on. The reason being that if you have a late developing eye problem, this information could be of great benefit your puppy buyer who might by this time be thinking about breeding a litter themselves.

Yes the KC registration document should be stamped and signed when a dog is BVA tested, but often people forget and we fill the documentation out from the previous test certificate so yes, sometimes it's not stamped. If you want to know it a dog has been tested just let me know the pedigree name and I'll check up on the KC database.

Regards, John

sue51 · Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject:

Jessica23 · Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:18 am Post subject:

The KC are being useless at the moment.

On our last litters papers it says that the dad (our Beau) has no eye certificate at all Rolling Eyes

We phoned up to ask the KC what that was all about as we have definately had it done and have the paperwork, and they said that they hadn't recieved the paperwork Shocked

Weird, cos the others done at the same time got there ok, and they were all sent together Laughing

Though, in fairness to the KC they are updating everything and sending new forms out... Very Happy

As for the eye testing - PRA isn't detected in the annual eye tests Sue Razz

Just the DNA ones at the moment i think. We have ours done every year for cataracts and stuff like that just to be sure. Its only about £20 a test so worth it IMO for peace of mind.