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mrsmSubscriber 06/04/2010

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Sue will ask Di and be back Wink

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Have emailed to ask about posting to them.................let you know what they say.

Di says one of two ways by airmail in a jiffy bag or fedex which is more expensive but guaranteed Wink


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Bumping again for anyone who may have missed this.

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_Lesley_ wrote:
Crumpet has severe HD - off to have a read


Hi Lesley

Can I ask how old Crumpet is coz he doesn't look that old. Also, have you had any hydrotheraphy treatment or ops yet. My Lily is only 7mths and whilst under a GA for a minor op, vet xrayed hips and we've been told they are severe. Had a cry - just my luck but I am surprised how many labs have it.

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this test will say if the pup is carrying the gene that might make develope hd, but you don´t know if they really develope it, until you x ray them.

so a breeder tests all his puppies, keeps for himself the one with the good gene.

and the pup still can pass the hd, and what happens with the others....
for me it sound like frankenstein Shocked


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject:   Thank this member for this postReply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

EvelynH wrote:
and the pup still can pass the hd, and what happens with the others....for me it sound like frankenstein Shocked


Can you tell me how the test information will differ in any way from hip scoring? we already know with exceptionally careful management that dogs genetically pre-disposed to HD can be prevented from developing bad hips enabling them to get a low hip score - and that you cannot cause HD from Environmental factors alone if the predisposition is not there.

Surely any research that starts identifying and isolating these genes so that we have an extra indicator to hip scoring, or even, in the long term future, a much more accurate way of stopping our beloved breed randomly developing this condition, it has to be worth pursuing?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject:   Thank this member for this postReply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

google translated. it must be in english anywhere, but can not find it



"The Hüftgelenksdysplasie of the dog (HD) is a common, hereditary
Developmental disorder of the hip joint. HD is the subluxation of the
Femoral head and deformation of the hip and characterized pan
leads to painful osteoarthritis. Analysis of inheritance have shown that
when a German shepherd at the main expression of the HD involved
is. It was a scan of the entire genome to "quantitative trait loci"
(quantitative characteristics locus, QTL) at the German shepherd
performed. These were found 11 paternal Halbgeschwisterfamilien
examines the total 459 purebred German Shepherds included,
Father with 11 animals and the mother animals and the offspring. All dogs
carry 261 were genotyped micro-satellites. These markers were
spread evenly over All 38 autosomes and the X-chromosome distributed, with a
middle distance of 11.7 cM (= CENTI-Morgan). The mean observed
Heterozygosität sets of markers was 50%. The HD status of the dogs was
after the official FCI rules. With a genome-wide
Significance of p <0.05 were the QTLs for HD on nine different
Dogs localized chromosomes: 1, 3, 4, 8, 9, 16, 19, 26 and 33 The
minimal QTL regions, the HD genes involved, was carried out over
an average of 5 MB (mega-bases), with a fluctuation between 1 and
About 8.2 Mb seen all the chromosomes were treated with a significance of
p <0.05 QTLs to 19 chromosomes found. Further analysis can now
be mapped to these positions at the QTLs
German shepherd accurate mapping. "

The work was written by Yvonne Marshall and drafted Distler Ottmar
and is in "Mammalian Genome" (2007) 18: 861-870 published.


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