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_Jules_  Offline
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| Quote: | | So wife gets mouthed, she yelps and pup stops. I get mouthed, I yelp and I get mouthed more. |
This could be as Evelyn pointed out, something to do with the difference in your voices. I found the higher pitched yelp I let out, the more effective it was at stopping the pup, however my menfolk have much deeper voices than me and can get nowhere near the high pitch I can and their yelps are much less effective. It is also about timing. I find my menfolks timing and consistancy is terrible (to say the least  )....one minute they are rolling around on the floor allowing the pup to launch various "viscious" attacks , the next they are saying it is biting too hard because it is too excited  . Consistancy is the key, as is instant "reaction" the moment it mouthes too hard and even then it can take a good few weeks before the penny drops, as we are not dogs teaching the pup, we are human and as such we often get it wrong.
My old Lurcher was the best at teaching pups Bite Inhibition as she had very thin, sensitive skin. If they mouthed her legs or ears she would scream like a banshee instantly, even if sometimes they have barely made contact and if they persisted, she would flip them, grab them round the throat (not hard) and growl that "In No Uncertain Terms Will they Do THAT Again"....and boy did they listen. She taught me a lot that old girl, although I draw the line at biting my pups throats, as their hairs tickle my tonsils  .
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Thanks and yes sounds a bit like me - it's impossible to resist a bit of rough and tumble until it gets painful
We had talked about the voice thing as well as I can not get a high pitch note however hard I try. At least she stops biting the wife and our 1 year old and 4 year old and at worst (so far) they just get their trousers pulled and again she stops when told.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Jules for this very important reminder - having read your previous sticky post I feel well prepared now to tackle this with our impending pup especially as we have 8 & 9 year old children.
But agree wholeheartedly on the subject of menfolks consistency !! what is it about them & grasping that basic training principle whether it be children or animals it doesnt seem to figure in their vocab at all !!!? I know there must be exceptions to the rule but boy does it make our job doubly difficult !
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:45 am Post subject: |
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very good and much needed post jules 
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I'm so glad that you have said that your labs are now the best of friends, I was getting abit worried about the future for my two. We have just introduced our gorgeous newest addition, Rolo (8 weeks) to our beautiful boy Harvey( 7 years) and we are are having a bit of a problem with the youngest biting and generally terrorising our normally very placid Harvey!! Any tips on riding the storm with these 2 as I really want them to get on with minimum stress to either. All help appreciated!! Thanks xx
| sheens wrote: | Well said Jules..although we got Fudge when Lewis was 8 he found the croc a bit difficult for quite a while until he learned how to stop her and to do some training......they are the best of pals now though  |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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I feel really cheated as neither of my two bit. Nor did any of Dora's pups as far as I am aware. Clover will do' love bites' on my arm occasionally, never hurts, just to gain my attention.
They both love carrying anything in their mouths, though I do draw the line at dead rabbits as clover did this am. Have a horrible feeling she actually killed it as too big for the cat too have done it. Both girls play and show their crocodile teeth but never any damage to either of them. Sometimes it sounds as if they are murdering one another. I have obviously been very lucky.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Hi parky84a. We had a similar issue with when we got Kiki - Mojo was only one, but is a very placid and easygoing boy. Kiki has terrorised him from day one....leg biting, ear biting, jumping on him etc. But his gentle nature meant that he just put up with it. We just kept an eye on the 'fights' and let the two of them sort it out. When he got fed up, Mojo would tell her he'd had enough. They are best mates now.
This is an example of her beating him up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a-B1i-mObg
I think that as Harvey is older than Mojo was, I'd intervene more often. If I wanted to distract them I'd give them a small treat - but make them wait for it on their paws until I said yes. This gives pup a couple of minutes to calm down.
Good luck - I'm sure Rolo will be calmer before you know it and Harvey can go back to his gentle life!
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| Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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well said the funny thing is dougie my black lab didn't nip much or chew oh he was not completely innorcent ryleigh on the other hand is a crocodile in disguise she has kept me on my toes since day one but would not have it any other way
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