We use slip leads on our two, of course they are matching chocolate in colour, and are used as 'Sunday best' - so if we go to any game fairs where we like to show them off at their best. Otherwise we've always stuck to training on a flat collar and lead.
I'm not sure if anyone has described how a slip lead should go on, so if they have and I missed it apols, but better twice than not at all. The lead should come down from your hand over the back of the neck and run round under the neck until it joins up again at the link. Hope that makes sense!
....The lead should come down from your hand over the back of the neck and run round under the neck until it joins up again at the link. Hope that makes sense!
Yep! So the loop drops when the lead is slack.
Also if there are any snags or fraying the lead should not be used.
There again, I've seen sisal and bale binding used as slip leads.
I use a half check collar on Maia and this has worked wonders on her, we had the opposite problem as she walks beautifully to heel, but will just sit and then throw herself on the ground, all other collars woudl just slip over her head, the half check means we can give a 'check' before her bottom hits the floor
I have a half check too for the very same reason..a few times I was left holding the lead and collar...no dog ....I hasten to add that he has got better with age and doesn't do this anymore but the half check works well...you can adjust it and it's not tight enough to chock him
Interesting thread and I had often wondered too about slip leads being potentially as harmful as a choke/check chain.
I also have wondered whether flat collars can do damage.
My last labs had half checks. These three have flat collars. Mocha has learnt to walk nicely on a flat collar and lead and I hope she will be able to do the same on a slip lead. I keep meaning to get one and try her.
I have no problem with these used on well behaved dogs but so frequently you see people using them on 'pullers' wrongly.
I hate it when a dog pulls and the owner gives the dog the full length of the dog leash, this puts far more pressure on the dogs neck and spine than if the leash was kept short with the dog at their side and the dog then pulled.
I fail to see how they give you more control which is commonly said
Both slip leads and choke/ checks were not allowed at puppy classes.
I personally wouldnt want to start with a correction method for a pup, partly becasue tugging a pup isn't necessary and partly because i would worry it could damage them
Lastly, I know Zak is well behaved so obviously not him but I hate it when people take a leash off leaving the dog with no collar.
If something does happen it's the easiest place to grab a dog that's not your own. Last month Basil was leapt on by a GSD and i froze when I realised it had no collar to grab as I wasn't confident that with it's size I would have had a firm grip on it's scruff or legs
I hate it when people take a leash off leaving the dog with no collar.
If something does happen it's the easiest place to grab a dog that's not your own.
Same here Sarah. I can see why dogs working in heavy undergrowth may get hooked up if wearing a collar but I think it is inexcusable if an "urban" dog is running round "naked".
Having found lost dogs in the past and had to grab what I could to hook over it's neck (I had to take my belt off once, as I had nothing else with me), I know things would have been much easier and less stressful for all concerned if the dogs had been wearing collars. I am also rather wary of grabbing a strange dog by the scruff, as some do take exception.
Lucy was trained to walk nicely on a flat nylon collar using positive reinforcement, making it fun and lots of treats and occasionally she was corrected when she was older and knew what 'heel' meant. When i say correction i mean moving her back into a heel position (well relaxed heel position) not sharp jerking of the lead so that it puts pressure on her neck via the collar.
I also use a slip lead for her when we do Handling training and competitions...as these are the only things acceptable to use.
I personally wouldn't use a slip lead on a dog that didn't know how to walk nicely.
I cannot really comment on check chains because i've never used one and never needed to use one.
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They may not be Bisley's but they are good quality for the price.
....I hasten to add that he has got better with age and doesn't do this anymore but the half check works well...you can adjust it and it's not tight enough to chock him 
