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daizydoggy Subscriber 20/02/2013 Offline
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject:  Hypothetical question - dodgy breeders Reply with quote Scroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

OK, I've been thinking about this for the last few days and just wanted the opinions/thoughts of others on it.

Basically my question is how do you know the pup you buy is from the alleged parents?

I've seen the paperwork for Alfie, I have the KC registration and his pedigree etc. But what is stopping a breeder from having litter of pups from their bitch (health checked etc) and then "topping this up" with cheaper pups from another source. Where I live Lab pups from puppy-farms can be bought for £200 each, so any breeder selling these on for £500+ each would be making a huge margin and selling them as from health checked parents etc.

Don't misunderstand, I am not doubting Alfie's parentage, but can just see how potentially it would be quite easy to be conned this way? Or I am being paranoid now?! It's bothering me!!



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mmmm interesting thought and one that hadnt occurred to me i will be watching with interested what others think

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Hopefully a bone fide "straight" breeder wouldn`t do something like that Shocked

But I guess its possible, would all depend how many pups the bitch had and being able to get ones of the same age from a puppy farm, proper breeders wouldn`t entertain the thought I would imagine.


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Because anybody who is reputable wouldn't risk their reputation I would hope by mixing in sub-standard pups from another litter.....
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_Mary_ wrote:
Hopefully a bone fide "straight" breeder wouldn`t do something like that Shocked


Likewise, but I guess what I am saying is the way most new puppy buyers recognise a reputable breeder is one which has hip-scored, eye tested etc. That was really my "criteria" for looking, if that makes sense. I too couldn't imagine a "top breeder" doing this but surely it could go on with middle-of-the-road breeders?

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Because anybody who is reputable wouldn't risk their reputation I would hope by mixing in sub-standard pups from another litter.....


No they wouldn't, but the dodgy ones might, so how do you know your breeder is reputable, if it's your first pup, and if they don't make any claims to a great reputation? It's a very good question. I guess the sure answer is independent DNA testing of parents and pups, if you're that worried.


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More in line with puppy farmers I would imagine, don't think middle of the road breeders would even stoop so low
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

You could go down the route of a "Paternity" test, DNA profiling, but you could only do this with the breeder's co-operation. And I doubt it would do much for the puppy buyer/breeder relationship! Wink

Really, the answer is to not buy from anyone you do not have complete trust in.

When I started reading this I thought you were going to ask about the possibility of the listed sire not being the genuine sire. Wink

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JohnW wrote:
When I started reading this I thought you were going to ask about the possibility of the listed sire not being the genuine sire. Wink


Oooooh John do elaborate!? It's along similar lines to my query.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

i dont think it could happen really because repitable breeders have a waiting list and veiwing when the pups are tiny..
were as the puppy farmers sell theres when the pups are ready for homes??


thats my guessing of it anyway...

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