Anyone hear of this food?

Lunamus · Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:57 pm Post subject:

Hmm its worth writing them and ask:-)

Do you have a link for the site?

dylansdad · Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:00 pm Post subject:

www.naturediet.net

their phone number is on there, Ive talked to them a few times, theyre always very helpfull.

Lunamus · Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:11 pm Post subject:

Thank you very much, but I doubt I can afford to call them Smile

Its a bit far to call from Denmark, but I will go and have a look Smile

NigelB · Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:37 pm Post subject:

[quote]if it is the chicken causing this, then barf is out of the question isnt it?[quote]

Jeanette, If by "barf" you mean feeding raw then don't let an intolerance to chicken put you off .. chicken is just another meat, take that away and there is plenty left: beef, pork, lamb, turkey, rabbit, fish, kangeroo, ostrich, venison, goat, the list is endless .. all good sources of protein .. the fact that chicken features heavily in what some feed their dogs is more to do with the availbility and price then its suitability as part of a prey model diet

I do feed chicken but only once or twice a week, but it wouldnt bother me if I never fed it to the Harvmeister again .. in fact if i win the lottery I never will feed it to him again Wink

If, however, by "Barf" you mean that strange concoction of chicken bones, pureed vegetables and expensive supplements that some feel compelled to feed their dogs then maybe the lack of chicken is a problem

Lunamus · Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 7:42 pm Post subject:

I didnt know there was a difference Confused

kayc · Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 8:13 pm Post subject:

Hi Jeanette, Have had a look at the website, never heard of them, and really cant make up my mine about them without more info.

heals scars etc, not always down to animal testing, some product gather up a large market and have constant feedback from customers, all data is then analysed, But they dont say that they dont animal test so there is no way of confirming one way or another.

Nigel is correct. BARF is very different from a prey model species appropriate diet. Chicken in not an essential part of the diet, in fact it can easily be replaced with any other meat.

To be perfectly honest, unless a skin scraping and allergy test is done, you are not going to know which particular ingredient/s is/are the problem.

There is also the constant change over in the diet, it may be that the gut flora has been upset and needs rebalanced. Try giving her some probiotics over the next few days . Plain Bio yogurt is good, just a couple of spoonfulls in her food.

dylansdad · Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject:

kayc · Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:32 pm Post subject:

Hi Dylansdad.

Allergic reactions can be immediate (classical) or occur within a few hours or days (delayed); delayed allergy is more commonly called "intolerance". Therefore the detection of allergies through traditional methods of trial and elimination can be a difficult and lengthy process.

The symptoms are similar for canines and felines

The most prevalent signs of an allergy affecting your pet are:

Skin Problems - Scratching, face rubbing, paw chewing, hot spots or rashes, persistent licking and over grooming
Gastrointestinal Problems - Diarrhoea, vomiting, loss of appetite, weight problems
Respiratory Problems
Ear Problems
Hair Loss
Low Stamina and Energy Levels
Behavioural Problems

The Yorktest is a accurate

However You can do an elimination diet, that is feed your dog one ingredient only eg rice and see how he supports it and gradually bring in other single ingredients until you find out what your dog is intolerant/allergic to.

This was aboviously your choice

Tests can done to eliminate Giardia, campylobacter, salmonella, e-coli etc (although these are not always conclusive). The main protagonists of food intolerance/allergies in dogs is wheat, corn(maize) however they, like us, can have multiple problems with any and all foods.

Once a course of antibiotics is completed, it is essential that you put your dog on a course of probiotics for at least a month in order to repopulate the gut with friendly bacteria. The easiest way to do this is via a multi strain tablet via Holland and Barrett; live yoghurt is also useful although it will have only one strain of bacteria and not as many as tablets/powders.

My personal and proven choice is the live yougurt.

Very Happy