I sound like I got out of bed the wrong side in my last three posts to this forum
So, let me give another slant. You say your girl and the dog are pets. When you mate your girl you will need backup. Breeding knowledge and most definately stud knowledge to get your girl mated and then for you to call on whilst she is pregnant and whelping. Its not an easy thing and you really don't want to let your girl go to someone who has nothing to help you in this area for his stud fee. If he is not charging a stud fee then his dog is a first timer and he will almost certainly not have the first clue how to mate your girl. A LOT of hand assistance is needed to get modern domesticated bitches mated and a lot of knowledge about which is the right day to go to the sire on which comes from the stud dog owner.
Its scarey going it alone if they just are as inexperienced. Its something to ponder when conbsidering that a pet sire is the 'easy' option. 99% of bitches show dogs mate who have proved themselves produce puppies which go to pet homes, they don't produce show quality puppies at every turn by any means. I think this is very misunderstood. Its just using that breeders experience, backup and knowledge of mating to get your girl mated, and then whelped with support. Its not about using a dog too good for her. Is any dog too good for ones beloved girl!?
Di
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Thanks everyone for the advice. I am going to see some more dogs next week, as i know you dont jump on the 1st one. I may be inexperienced in breeding, so i am doing studying, asking vets, breeders themselves, but breeders say different things to what my vet says. The male that we would like to put her to (we have seen other dogs and he stood out!) is inexperienced too, his breeder says its a good idea, and she says they are an almost perfect match (almost because theres no such thing as perfect). My bitch is travel sick, so she cant travel for hours, and not many people with studs are wanting to travel to the bitch, so we said we could travel upto 50miles from our location, which the dog that stood out is 47.5 miles away. Our vet has seen pics of him and say's 'they would produce beautiful litter and he said putting them to show stud isnt the best thing everytime, as long as they both have hip score, elbow score and eye certificate, you cant go far wrong'
No offence to any breeder in this site, but breeders and vets seem to go against things. But thanks for all advice. Also
Of COURSE this pet dogs owners will say he seems right for her, they want the stud! BUT other factors have to come into play.
Good luck in that! I hope it works for you and you see all these health certificates this pet lad has and take copies for your puppy buyers.
I want to advise you take an experienced dog owners advice and use an experienced dog up your way..... but I know your mind is made I don't expect, sadly, your vet has bred a litter in his life, let alone a litter of Labradors, so I understand his gushing view of this dog might seem logical. sadly vets should be advising people to take the weight off THEIR shoulders and go somewhere knowledgeable. But this is the second vet tonight that has made me tear my hair out so I'll go to bed and see everyone shortly
Di
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Read: Wylanbriar Dog Blog on the website: Updated! 1st February 12´!
Our vet has seen pics of him and say's 'they would produce beautiful litter and he said putting them to show stud isnt the best thing everytime, as long as they both have hip score, elbow score and eye certificate, you cant go far wrong'
Sometimes words fail me With that sort of advice being given out by vets, what hope is there for novices...
Okay, just to prove that vets are NOT always right, here's a wee tale:
I had a litter due. The couple next door wanted one, as they (really she) had bred labs for a long, long time and their line had just died out. He is a vet, therefore obviously knowledgable, yes?
I sold them the pick of the litter, knowing it would be going to a great home. I also knew they wanted to breed from her, and consoled myself that I would be able to get a puppy back from her to continue my line. She had her health tests done. The couple split up, and the bitch stayed with the husband. The first litter went fine, but I wasn't in a position to take one then and thought I'd leave it until next time.
This bitch over the next year or so very quickly went from being a happy, if occasionally sneaky and slightly headstrong (like her mum!), dog to being a cowering wreck, who turned upside sown and piddled at the drop of a hat. He decided to breed a second litter. Then I found out he thought the eye test was only a once-in-a-lifetime test! After I persuaded him otherwise she was re-tested.
He found a TERRIBLE stud dog. After all, it didn't matter to him what the pups were like so long as they were the right colour to make money. I finally begged him to use one that had recently become useable and he did so. However, I felt quite hurt by it all, and have regretted the sale ever since the couple split. She was originally a happy, confident show bred bitch who worked, and all of those attributes just went. I don't even know where she is now, but she isn't with her owner, and although I offered, he wouldn't give her back to me.
So for anyone who thinks vets are the bees knees and know all there is to know about dogs and dog breeding - beware!!! They know lots about their skeletons, physiology etc, but not very often do they know lots about ethics, testing and how to breed dogs and actually do it well.
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With that sort of advice being given out by vets, what hope is there for novices... 
