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sue51 Subscriber 23/07/2012 Offline
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they are allowing bad breeding that way surely, dogs with hip problems, eye problems and such..


Just because a dog isn't hipscored doesn't mean it does have bad hips - likewise, the kennel club would advise against it, but would not stop someone registering a puppies from a parent with, for example, a 90 hip score Sad - which is not far off the highest you can get Sad

By ensuring both parents are both hip scored (with reasonable scores) and have clear eye certificates as an absolute minimum - then you are taking steps to ensure your pup has the best possible start - but it offers no guarantees Sad

The KC advocate health testing, but have already stated they will not make it mandatory.

I was all for mandatory health testing - but then, turn it on its head for a moment, couldn't this lead to potentially more x-rays not being sent at the point of hip scoring - could it increase fraudulent scoring?

I used my own vet to score Hally, knowing what I know now, I have considered using (different) recommended vets for Clover - she is microchipped - and my dogs chip details are on their KC paperwork - but what if the dog wasn't?

We already know that 'things' have happened with eye tests Sad

We could make Optigen testing mandatory and only breed from clears - but what would this do to the gene pool?

With hip scoring, a pattern can develop over time - looking at the Elbow scores I have only seen evidence of a consistent pattern with one line over time, but is this because more dogs are not elbow scored? (2.5K as at July last year - compared with 50K for hips) - knowing what I know now, it is clear to see that the potential environmental factors for bad elbows are greater than they are for hips Sad

A lot of these problems will only really be completely erradicated if every single dog is scored and / or the genes responsible for these conditions can be isolated and removed from breeding lines - how far are we away from that ? Sad sadly, I suspect still a fair way Sad

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