I have to seriously wonder about a breeder who does not know if the stud dog she is using is a show or working dog! Why did she use him? What was the thoughts behind it? What is she hoping to achieve? Was it simply that the dog was "There"? But the thought that a breeder does not even know her own dog's ancestors fill me with dread! What on earth DOES she know? Surely when thinking about breeding she had some thought in mind. Why is she breeding at all? I think that is a question you really must ask.
Sorry but from the little you have said about this person I could not recommend her and seriously wonder about her knowledge.
yeah, i know.. in all areas she was great.. and it wasnt until we picked the puppy up and asked her that that she said she didnt know..
all health checks were done on puppies they were registered etc.. but she doesnt know where the mother and father come from..
i guess she is like me, hasnt a clue what line *lol*
if i ever decided to breed KC which i wouldnt BTW as she is being spayed, how would i know ? she could have one litter and they'd be registered and checked etc but i wouldnt have a clue of the show or working line thing.. it doesnt sayanywhere..
I don't know if it's standard, but on Honey's pedigree it says for example 'Tibea Tosh FT CH' which means that the dog was a Field Trial Champion, therefore working line, and 'SH CH Poolstead Pictorial' which means a Show Champion. Honey is working on her mums side and showing on her dad's side.
Does the puppy's pedigree have anything like that? If not, I'm sure if you copy the pedigree on here someone would recognise at least some of the names.
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Have you got the 3 or 5 generation pedigree certificate which is available from the Kennel Club for registered dogs?
As a sort of clue, dogs which have abbreviations like FT CH are working lines which have won a number of field trials or at least done very well there, and ones such as SH CH are show lines.
One or two of the major working lines kennels which spring to mind for me are Dargdaffins, Drakesheads and Lettermores, as these are in the working lines side of Charlie's pedigree.
Charlie is also part show lines, and the major kennel present there is Donacre. I think another show lines one is Poolstead.
Really though, your breeder should know the answers to your questions if she read up on any basic knowledge of labradors before attempting to breed.
List the names present in the pedigree, if you have it, and that will enable someone to advise.
Helen.
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Ok here goes..
KC Ebony Moondance - Nantglas knight, storm of nantglas- kenex rowntree, st john princess, nalexi sir lancelot,- st james princess jimjoy tempo, coco brown bear, penrherber lord toby of nalexi, tyton princess escalus of nalexi, magic monty, jewel of wauncorggam, lejie good news of jimjoy, jimjoy hot toddy, cadbury brown bear, briwnant brown elk,,tyton lord hastings, gentle pheobe, bellsfolly black knight, tyton lady josephine, chevaron commander at lewisan, brynseion royal orchid, spoonfull of fun, melonie of treseder, sh ch mardas master mariner, sh ch lejie lucy, jimjoy jamaica rum, jimjoy chocolate inca, trikka of bach-howey, briwnant brown biffa, booth gates headliner, tyton casca, flindersia spice of life at tyton, penrherber bramble, lindall a bit of the action, mardas malteaser, bradking prospector of larkvalley, luggsmill high n mighty, sheenaron merry candy, sc ch sandylands royal escort, sandylands clever clogs, brave idris, romantic rose, spike of chanooka, tika of login
thats her full line thus far... and yep, i just realised that towards the end it says sh ch.. so thats show dog ? thats 5th generation.. what is that worth ? will any trates be passed to kc from 5th generation ?
As you said ' sh ch mardas master mariner, sh ch lejie lucy' these are show champions, do not know enough to comment about passing down from 5th generation, hopefully John or Di will be along soon to advise.
I would say they are showlines. I do believe Sandylands is anyway, and Charlie also has Brave Idris in his showlines line-up.
I should think you will also have a number of relatives on here via Kupros Master Mariner. He was such a busy boy, he was!
Edited to add, you are also the only other relative my Charlie has found who has Spoonfull of Fun in the pedigree. He was the son of Brave Idris and Romantic Rose, as you will see from your pedigree.
Helen.
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