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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:21 am    Post subject:   Reply with quote Scroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

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My only guess is that the dogs with any problems those days lived a vey short life...


John, probably my explanation was not so clear - I did mean that if a working dog of bygone days (or any dog for that matter) became unfit for his job or had health problems the remedy simply was "greener pastures".

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Yes, this is true Helen. In very many cases the cure would have been at the end of a 12 bore, but we still never saw it in pet dogs. I had one Lab born around 1975 who as a pup had an occasional limp at the front end. Went on for around a couple of months I remember. My vet spoke about this rare condition, Osteochrondrosis Dessicans, which if it did not clear up he would ex-ray for. But after a couple of months it went and never returned. Was it mild OCD? We'll never know, but OCD was certainly rare then, but we all know, it's anything but rare now.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject:  elbow grading Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

hi i have a two year old blck lab bitch i wish to breed from when she was eleven months old she got caught in a wire fence ending up upside down hanging by her elbow she was very lame for about ten days (she had vet medication for two weeks) since then she has been a fit sound healthy dog she has a current clear eye certificate hip score of two and two elbows however right zero the left leg came back as two i am sure that this is the result of the accident as there is such a difference in scores there is no evidence of problems with her parents or grandparents
they are all working gundogs

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Sounds like the accident had an effect certainly. Chances are without it she would have been zero zero elbows BUT you never know....

Thats the tricky thing... having generations of unscored dogs before tells you nothing about their elbow health. Just because they worked didn't mean they were always sound (some of the worst moving lamest dogs you ever see are working on shoots!)

The thing you face is trying to explian to puppy buyers that she has a elbow score of two. You will drop the 'accident' in of course but equally sadly almost anyone with a dog that comes back and they still breed 'says' that it had an accident so puppy buyers often don't know what is true and what is covering up a problem.

Its tricky I know.... and terribly bad luck.....

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