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Lab Names: brandy D.O.B..sept 98 rosze D.O.B. 7th august 04 charlie cavalier july 1998..jasper cavalier d.ob 20/6/97
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Scroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

ok sorry peeps but ive kicked him from this thread he can no longer reply to your posts, he is hell bent on causing a lot of upset so better he be on the end of a boot instead..lol..
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SuzanneL Subscriber 06/05/2013 Offline
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Lab Names: Jet Willow and Dora (Zeke JRT)
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

My Uncle worked Labradors as Gundogs back in the 50's and 60's for an Earl in Yorkshire. Dogs were bred as required from 'proven' working stock that made the grade in the field.
Dogs from his era rarely grew old enough to see damage to hips or eyes from any faulty gene pool- they were shot at the first sign of lameness or poor sight while going for a shot bird. Those that were not were 'rescued' by Estate staff and their families
There were no hip scores eye tests then to highlight any problems prior to breeding and my Uncle as old fashioned as he is wouldnt dream of breeding from untested parents now that tests are available.
I think it is irresponsible for breeders who make plans to breed from their dogs not to get all the relevant checks done. Especially if there are well known problems in earlier generations.
That there is now the optigen test available this should also be done along with the current eye scheme. Should a DNA profile for HD etc be discovered then this should also be put into the list of tests done rather than ignored.
I have friends who have a child with PKU ( Inability to process protein amongst other things)- they went for genetic counselling prior to having further children once they discovered their Son had the condition. They now can make an informed choice as to whether or not they have more children as they have a 50/50 chance of having another with the problem.
That there are tests available for animal breeders - Labradors are not alone in genetic problems- It is only prudent that the tests are done to try and eradicate those problems when genetically founded.
Education also has a part to play relating to environment factors and should be passed on to new dog owners so they can take their part in reducing stresses on hips and elbows etc and therefore reducing damage not genetically founded.

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Cash - says it all really Rolling Eyes
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His poor Labbie..... Sad Sad
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Alyson69 Subscriber 26/05/2012 Offline
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Lab Names: Jack, Niamh, Plum, Hamish, Amber, Hope and Angus
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Sad
Admire you honesty for stating your reasons for breeding. But, as many will and do on this forum, I am totally appalled that you would put your dog and subsequent puppies through this just for the experience and cash.
Those on the forum who are breeders are not in it for the money, they hardly make any after all the tests, registrations etc, etc. They want to breed strong, healthy labs and continue the lineage of their dogs.

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bradleysmum Subscriber 22/09/2012 Offline
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject:   Reply with quote Go to Top of PageScroll Up to Previous postScroll Down to Next postGo to last Post of PageTweet This Post

Hi Everyone,

Feel i should jump in here and let you know that Thunderballs account has now been removed from LF.

Please accept our apologies for any upset caused.

This thread will now be locked.


Julie

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