Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject: 'Scuffing' and 'Time Out'
I have been reading several threads in the last half hour and have two questions for all and any:
1) Describe 'scuffing' your dog to me. Describe when you feel pushed to 'scuffing'.
2) Describe how you would use a 'Time Out', where the dog goes, how it gets there and what, again, you would use it for and what you think the dog learns from it. Also who told you to use it or where you learnt the method from.
Thanks!
Di
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Scuffing i have never used Di, sorry to sound dim, but is that taking the dog by the scruff of the neck???
Time out i have used and usually i use it when the dog is really pushing his luck, mouthing, getting over excited srealing food ect.. i usully put them out of the room by themselves and then let them back in about 15 minutes later, but i ignore them for a further 10 minutes
Denise, I have no idea what 'scuffing' is either. 'Shaking hard by the scruff of the neck' might be, I was hoping someone would tell me. It sounds like a clip round the ear in human terms 'scuffing...' I 'scuffed' him one? But don't think it is... thats why I asked must admit...
Can you explain who taught you to use the time out as you do, where the figures come from for how long you leave him outside then ignore him and what you hope the action does to mould his behaviour?
Di
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The boys!
Read: Wylanbriar Dog Blog on the website: Updated! 1st February 12´!
I'm not entirely sure what Scuffing is either but it didn't sound nice.
Molly had "time out" the other day when I came home to a ripped up loo roll over the lounge floor She was sent to her bed and I didn't speak or look at her for 10 minutes,
That's as naughty as she knows how to be
Never had the urge to lay a finger on either of mine
I find time out works for minor offences such as over excitment ect.. but doesnt work for problems such as my boys wanting to rip each other apart hehe. I think i learned about it on here. The timing has been trail and error
2) I started to use the Time Out after reading it on here, not sure who posted about it originally.
Corbie was bad for nipping when he got too hyper as a pup and nothing else seemed to work. So we would put him into the hall for a few minutes (about 5 mins max as he had usually laid down by then - we've got glass in top half of lounge door so could sneakily watch him) to calm down and say 'no biting' at the same time. When he was let in again we wouldn't say anything to him straightaway and he would stay calm, if not he was straight out again.
After about 6 weeks I would only have to say no biting and he would stop his nipping. We also used time out if he just needed to calm down a bit too. I haven't had to 'time out' him for a long time now, a voice command usually does the trick.
Sometimes I would leave the room instead of him, if OH was in with him and he would stop his bad behaviour then also. Bascially, taking away the attention from him in the way which seemed to work for us.
Izmo, what lead you to believe that putting her in her bed for something she might have done an hour or more before would mould her behaviour or prevent it happening again? You definately know SHE knew it was to do with the loo roll.....? How, as such?
I am of course probing and being irritating, but I am truely interested in the course of folks minds in their own training methods.
Di
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The boys!
Read: Wylanbriar Dog Blog on the website: Updated! 1st February 12´!
1) Scruffing.....taking hold of the dog by it's spare skin under jowls, both sides of face, so it can't avoid my angry glare eyes....then get up close (obviously not close enough to lose my nose), stare at it and give it a talking to.
I would only use this in extreme circumstances...such as an aggressive bite or lunge from an older dog....or doing something it really knows is off limits...like chasing (and I dont mean playfully) the cats or rabbits....But this is a last resort measure after everything else has failed.
2) Time outs....I don't use them, so I'm not sure where I would put the dog or how effective it would be....I'm more of a *sort it now* kind of girl. I didn't use Time Outs with my kids either..the only time they got sent to their rooms was if I was in fear that I would kill them.....And yes kids DO push you that far occasionally.
Thanks Karen and Jules. Especially now I understand what 'scuffing' is... how on earth did that get named 'scuffing!' I genuinely thought it meant shaking by the scruff if I was going to have a stab at guessing...
I have a feeling some others would define 'scuffing' as shaking by the scruff on here reading posts earlier this hour?
Does anyone else have a different personal definition for what they call 'scuffing'?
Di
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The boys!
Read: Wylanbriar Dog Blog on the website: Updated! 1st February 12´!
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but it didn't sound nice.
She was sent to her bed and I didn't speak or look at her for 10 minutes,
I didn't use Time Outs with my kids either..the only time they got sent to their rooms was if I was in fear that I would kill them.....And yes kids DO push you that far occasionally. 
